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From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@kernel.org>,
	"Derek J. Clark" <derekjohn.clark@gmail.com>
Cc: "Mark Pearson" <mpearson-lenovo@squebb.ca>,
	"Hans de Goede" <hansg@kernel.org>, "Armin Wolf" <W_Armin@gmx.de>,
	"ALOK TIWARI" <alok.a.tiwari@oracle.com>,
	"Mario Limonciello" <mario.limonciello@amd.com>,
	"Jelle van der Waa" <jvanderwaa@redhat.com>,
	platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] platform/x86: lenovo: gamezone needs "other mode"
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2025 17:09:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fd1f6732-e091-48e8-90c9-4bc18aface58@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dd727ab6-a754-77fd-5876-fec076c8905a@linux.intel.com>

On Fri, Jul 11, 2025, at 16:55, Ilpo Järvinen wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Jul 2025, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>> index b76157b35296..e9e1c3268373 100644
>> --- a/drivers/platform/x86/lenovo/Kconfig
>> +++ b/drivers/platform/x86/lenovo/Kconfig
>> @@ -250,8 +250,7 @@ config LENOVO_WMI_GAMEZONE
>>  	depends on ACPI_WMI
>>  	depends on DMI
>>  	select ACPI_PLATFORM_PROFILE
>> -	select LENOVO_WMI_EVENTS
>> -	select LENOVO_WMI_HELPERS
>> +	select LENOVO_WMI_TUNING
>
> Why did you remove the other two?
>
> Do select propagate properly these days across another select?

Yes, as far as I know it has always done this, with the one
exception that it does not propagate when trying to select
another symbol that has missing dependencies

> I was under impression they don't which is one of the reasons
> use of select is discouraged.

I have seen that mentioned before in commit logs, but I
think this was a misunderstanding. Using 'select' is still
discouraged, but for other reasons:

- complexity quickly gets out of hand when selecting something
  that has other dependencies, as the driver selecting them
  must duplicate all those dependencies and keep them in sync

- mixing 'depends on' and 'select' for the same dependency
  in different drivers tends to cause dependency loops

- selecting user-visible symbols has side-effects if another
  symbol depends on that, e.g. the "select I2C" in some subsystems
  causes the I2C submenu to appear.

    Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-11 15:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-09 15:17 Arnd Bergmann
2025-07-11 14:55 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-07-11 15:09   ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2025-07-11 15:34     ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-07-11 15:36       ` Arnd Bergmann

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