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From: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>,
	Florent Revest <revest@chromium.org>
Cc: bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	KP Singh <kpsingh@kernel.org>,
	Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>,
	Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@google.com>,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	syzbot <syzbot@syzkaller.appspotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf] bpf: Don't WARN_ON_ONCE in bpf_bprintf_prepare
Date: Wed, 5 May 2021 22:00:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fe37ff8f-ebf0-25ec-4f3c-df3373944efa@iogearbox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEf4BzZiK1ncN7RzeJ-62e=itekn34VuFf7WNhUF=9OoznMP6Q@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/5/21 8:55 PM, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 9:23 AM Florent Revest <revest@chromium.org> wrote:
>>
>> The bpf_seq_printf, bpf_trace_printk and bpf_snprintf helpers share one
>> per-cpu buffer that they use to store temporary data (arguments to
>> bprintf). They "get" that buffer with try_get_fmt_tmp_buf and "put" it
>> by the end of their scope with bpf_bprintf_cleanup.
>>
>> If one of these helpers gets called within the scope of one of these
>> helpers, for example: a first bpf program gets called, uses
> 
> Can we afford having few struct bpf_printf_bufs? They are just 512
> bytes, so can we have 3-5 of them? Tracing low-level stuff isn't the
> only situation where this can occur, right? If someone is doing
> bpf_snprintf() and interrupt occurs and we run another BPF program, it
> will be impossible to do bpf_snprintf() or bpf_trace_printk() from the
> second BPF program, etc. We can't eliminate the probability, but
> having a small stack of buffers would make the probability so
> miniscule as to not worry about it at all.
> 
> Good thing is that try_get_fmt_tmp_buf() abstracts all the details, so
> the changes are minimal. Nestedness property is preserved for
> non-sleepable BPF programs, right? If we want this to work for
> sleepable we'd need to either: 1) disable migration or 2) instead of
> assuming a stack of buffers, do a loop to find unused one. Should be
> acceptable performance-wise, as it's not the fastest code anyway
> (printf'ing in general).
> 
> In any case, re-using the same buffer for sort-of-optional-to-work
> bpf_trace_printk() and probably-important-to-work bpf_snprintf() is
> suboptimal, so seems worth fixing this.
> 
> Thoughts?

Yes, agree, it would otherwise be really hard to debug. I had the same
thought on why not allowing nesting here given users very likely expect
these helpers to just work for all the contexts.

Thanks,
Daniel

  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-05 20:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-05 16:23 Florent Revest
2021-05-05 18:55 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-05-05 20:00   ` Daniel Borkmann [this message]
2021-05-05 20:48     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-05-05 20:52       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-05-05 22:29         ` Florent Revest
2021-05-06 18:52           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-05-06 20:17             ` Florent Revest
2021-05-06 21:38               ` Daniel Borkmann
2021-05-07 10:39                 ` Florent Revest

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