From: Hao Jia <jiahao.kernel@gmail.com>
To: Aaron Lu <ziqianlu@bytedance.com>
Cc: "Valentin Schneider" <vschneid@redhat.com>,
"Ben Segall" <bsegall@google.com>,
"K Prateek Nayak" <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Chengming Zhou" <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>,
"Josh Don" <joshdon@google.com>, "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
"Vincent Guittot" <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
"Xi Wang" <xii@google.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Juri Lelli" <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
"Dietmar Eggemann" <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
"Mel Gorman" <mgorman@suse.de>,
"Chuyi Zhou" <zhouchuyi@bytedance.com>,
"Jan Kiszka" <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
"Florian Bezdeka" <florian.bezdeka@siemens.com>,
"Songtang Liu" <liusongtang@bytedance.com>,
"Chen Yu" <yu.c.chen@intel.com>,
"Matteo Martelli" <matteo.martelli@codethink.co.uk>,
"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
"Sebastian Andrzej Siewior" <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: Prevent cfs_rq from being unthrottled with zero runtime_remaining
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 15:49:15 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ff16098b-00ff-80ee-5130-f1327b0af17d@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251016065438.GA32@bytedance>
Hi Aaron,
On 2025/10/16 14:54, Aaron Lu wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 06:21:01PM +0800, Hao Jia wrote:
>> On 2025/10/15 16:40, Aaron Lu wrote:
> ... ...
>>> Hao Jia,
>>>
>>> Do I understand you correctly that you can only hit the newly added
>>> debug warn in tg_unthrottle_up():
>>> WARN_ON_ONCE(cfs_rq->runtime_enabled && cfs_rq->runtime_remaining <= 0);
>>> but not throttle triggered on unthrottle path?
>>>
>>
>> yes. but I'm not sure if there are other corner cases where
>> cfs_rq->runtime_remaining <= 0 and cfs_rq->curr is NULL.
>>
>
> Right, I'm not aware of any but might be possible.
>
>>> BTW, I think your change has the advantage of being straightforward and
>>> easy to reason about. My concern is, it's not efficient to enqueue tasks
>>> to a cfs_rq that has no runtime left, not sure how big a deal that is
>>> though.
>>
>> Yes, but that's what we're doing now. The case described above involves
>> enqueue a task where cfs_rq->runtime_remaining <= 0.
>>
>> I previously tried adding a runtime_remaining check for each level of task
>> p's cfs_rq in unthrottle_cfs_rq()/tg_unthrottle_up(), but this made the code
>> strange and complicated.
>
> Agree that adding a runtime_remaining check for each level in
> unthrottle_cfs_rq() looks too complex.
>
> So I think you approach is fine, feel free to submit a formal patch.
> With your change, theoretically we do not need to do those
> runtime_remaining check in unthrottle_cfs_rq() but keeping that check
> could save us some unnecessary enqueues, so I'll leave it to you to
> decide if you want to keep it or not. If you want to keep it, please
> also change its comments because the current comments will be stale
> then.
>
Thank you for your suggestion. I'll send a formal patch later.
I'm also happy for you to submit a patch for the next version. This
warning needs to be fixed, regardless of the method.
However, I've discovered a minor bug in your current patch.
In kernel/sched/core.c tg_set_cfs_bandwidth()
...
if (cfs_rq->runtime_enabled && !cfs_rq->throttled) {
update_rq_clock(rq); <----
throttle_cfs_rq(cfs_rq);
}
...
Call update_rq_clock() to avoid the warning about using an outdated
rq_clock in tg_throttle_down()->rq_clock_pelt().
Thanks,
Hao
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-16 7:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-29 7:46 Aaron Lu
2025-09-29 9:34 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-09-29 10:55 ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-30 7:56 ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-30 8:58 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-09-30 9:27 ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-30 11:07 ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-30 12:39 ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-30 13:38 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-10-01 11:58 ` Aaron Lu
2025-10-14 7:43 ` Hao Jia
2025-10-14 9:11 ` Aaron Lu
2025-10-14 11:01 ` Hao Jia
2025-10-14 11:50 ` Aaron Lu
2025-10-15 1:43 ` Hao Jia
2025-10-15 1:48 ` Hao Jia
2025-10-15 2:51 ` Aaron Lu
2025-10-15 6:31 ` Hao Jia
2025-10-15 8:40 ` Aaron Lu
2025-10-15 10:21 ` Hao Jia
2025-10-16 6:54 ` Aaron Lu
2025-10-16 7:49 ` Hao Jia [this message]
2025-10-16 9:23 ` Aaron Lu
2025-10-16 11:04 ` Hao Jia
2025-10-16 11:46 ` Aaron Lu
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