From: Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Chao Gao <chao.gao@intel.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: x86: Track supported ARCH_CAPABILITIES in kvm_caps
Date: Tue, 23 May 2023 03:31:44 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ff2a97c2-1e8f-4adb-78c2-3cf5037f139f@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZGup1TjeqBF7bgWG@google.com>
On 5/23/2023 1:43 AM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>>> 6. Performance aside, KVM should not be speculating (ha!) on what the guest
>>> will and will not do, and should instead honor whatever behavior is presented
>>> to the guest. If the guest CPU model indicates that VERW flushes buffers,
>>> then KVM damn well needs to let VERW flush buffers.
>> The current implementation allows guests to have VERW flush buffers when
>> they enumerate FB_CLEAR. It only restricts the flush behavior when the
>> guest is trying to mitigate against a vulnerability(like MDS) on a
>> hardware that is not affected. I guess its common for guests to be
>> running with older gen configuration on a newer hardware.
> Right, I'm saying that that behavior is wrong. KVM shouldn't assume the guest
> the guest will do things a certain way and should instead honor the "architectural"
> definition, in quotes because I realize there probably is no architectural
> definition for any of this.
>
> It might be that the code does (unintentionally?) honor the "architecture", i.e.
> this code might actually be accurrate with respect to when the guest can expect
> VERW to flush buffers. But the comment is so, so wrong.
The comment is wrong and the code is wrong in some case as well.
If none of ARCH_CAP_FB_CLEAR, ARCH_CAP_MDS_NO, ARCH_CAP_TAA_NO,
ARCH_CAP_PSDP_NO, ARCH_CAP_FBSDP_NO and ARCH_CAP_SBDR_SSDP_NO are
exposed to VM, the VM is type of "affected by MDS".
And accroding to the page
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/developer/articles/technical/software-security-guidance/technical-documentation/processor-mmio-stale-data-vulnerabilities.html
if the VM enumerates support for both L1D_FLUSH and MD_CLEAR, it
implicitly enumerates FB_CLEAR as part of their MD_CLEAR support.
However, the code will leave vmx->disable_fb_clear as 1 if hardware
supports it, and VERW intruction doesn't clear FB in the VM, which
conflicts "architectural" definition.
> /*
> * If guest will not execute VERW, there is no need to set FB_CLEAR_DIS
> * at VMEntry. Skip the MSR read/write when a guest has no use case to
> * execute VERW.
> */
> if ((vcpu->arch.arch_capabilities & ARCH_CAP_FB_CLEAR) ||
> ((vcpu->arch.arch_capabilities & ARCH_CAP_MDS_NO) &&
> (vcpu->arch.arch_capabilities & ARCH_CAP_TAA_NO) &&
> (vcpu->arch.arch_capabilities & ARCH_CAP_PSDP_NO) &&
> (vcpu->arch.arch_capabilities & ARCH_CAP_FBSDP_NO) &&
> (vcpu->arch.arch_capabilities & ARCH_CAP_SBDR_SSDP_NO)))
> vmx->disable_fb_clear = false;
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-05-22 19:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-05-06 3:04 Chao Gao
2023-05-18 9:32 ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-05-18 17:33 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-05-19 8:40 ` Chao Gao
2023-05-19 15:25 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-05-20 1:02 ` Pawan Gupta
2023-05-22 17:43 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-05-22 19:31 ` Xiaoyao Li [this message]
2023-05-22 21:23 ` Pawan Gupta
2023-05-23 1:00 ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-05-23 3:34 ` Pawan Gupta
2023-05-25 15:42 ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-05-25 20:33 ` Pawan Gupta
2023-05-22 20:54 ` Pawan Gupta
2023-05-23 4:47 ` Pawan Gupta
2023-05-22 14:23 ` Dave Hansen
2023-05-22 16:37 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-05-29 3:35 ` Chao Gao
2023-06-06 16:54 ` Sean Christopherson
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