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From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
To: "Petr Tesařík" <petr@tesarici.cz>,
	"Michael Kelley" <mhklinux@outlook.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Petr Tesarik <petr.tesarik1@huawei-partners.com>,
	"kernel-team@android.com" <kernel-team@android.com>,
	"iommu@lists.linux.dev" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	Dexuan Cui <decui@microsoft.com>,
	Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 6/6] swiotlb: Remove pointless stride adjustment for allocations >= PAGE_SIZE
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 13:37:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ffd7646b-37b1-4cd2-822a-848b36b076c9@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240304120055.56035c21@meshulam.tesarici.cz>

On 04/03/2024 11:00 am, Petr Tesařík wrote:
[...]
>> Here's my take on tying all the threads together. There are
>> four alignment combinations:
>>
>> 1. alloc_align_mask: zero; min_align_mask: zero
>> 2. alloc_align_mask: zero; min_align_mask: non-zero
>> 3. alloc_align_mask: non-zero; min_align_mask: zero/ignored
>> 4. alloc_align_mask: non-zero; min_align_mask: non-zero
> 
> What does "min_align_mask: zero/ignored" mean? Under which
> circumstances should be a non-zero min_align_mask ignored?
> 
>> xen_swiotlb_map_page() and dma_direct_map_page() are #1 or #2
>> via swiotlb_map() and swiotlb_tbl_map_single()
>>
>> iommu_dma_map_page() is #3 and #4 via swiotlb_tbl_map_single()
>>
>> swiotlb_alloc() is #3, directly to swiotlb_find_slots()
>>
>> For #1, the returned physical address has no constraints if
>> the requested size is less than a page. For page size or
>> greater, the discussed historical requirement for page
>> alignment applies.
>>
>> For #2, min_align_mask governs the bits of the returned
>> physical address that must match the original address. When
>> needed, swiotlb must also allocate pre-padding aligned to
>> IO_TLB_SIZE that precedes the returned physical address.  A
>> request size <= swiotlb_max_mapping_size() will not exceed
>> IO_TLB_SEGSIZE even with the padding. The historical
>> requirement for page alignment does not apply because the
>> driver has explicitly used the newer min_align_mask feature.
> 
> What is the idea here? Is it the assumption that only old drivers rely
> on page alignment, so if they use min_align_mask, it proves that they
> are new and must not rely on page alignment?

Yes, if a driver goes out of its way to set a min_align_mask which is 
smaller than its actual alignment constraint, that is clearly the 
driver's own bug. Strictly we only need to be sympathetic to drivers 
which predate min_align_mask, when implicitly relying on page alignment 
was all they had.

>> For #3, alloc_align_mask specifies the required alignment. No
>> pre-padding is needed. Per earlier comments from Robin[1],
>> it's reasonable to assume alloc_align_mask (i.e., the granule)
>> is >= IO_TLB_SIZE. The original address is not relevant in
>> determining the alignment, and the historical page alignment
>> requirement does not apply since alloc_align_mask explicitly
>> states the alignment.

FWIW I'm also starting to wonder about getting rid of the alloc_size 
argument and just have SWIOTLB round the end address up to 
alloc_align_mask itself as part of all these calculations. Seems like it 
could potentially end up a little simpler, maybe?

>> For #4, the returned physical address must match the bits
>> in the original address specified by min_align_mask.  swiotlb
>> swiotlb must also allocate pre-padding aligned to
>> alloc_align_mask that precedes the returned physical address.
>> Also per Robin[1], assume alloc_align_mask is >=
>> min_align_mask, which solves the conflicting alignment
>> problem pointed out by Petr[2]. Perhaps we should add a
>> "WARN_ON(alloc_align_mask < min_align_mask)" rather than
>> failing depending on which bits of the original address are
>> set. Again, the historical requirement for page alignment does
>> not apply.
> 
> AFAICS the only reason this works in practice is that there are only
> two in-tree users of min_align_mask: NVMe and Hyper-V. Both use a mask
> of 12 bits, and the IOVA granule size is never smaller than 4K.

If we assume a nonzero alloc_align_mask exclusively signifies iommu-dma, 
then for this situation SWIOTLB should only need to worry about the 
intersection of alloc_align_mask & min_align_mask, since any 
min_align_mask bits larger than the IOVA granule would need to be 
accounted for in the IOVA allocation regardless of SWIOTLB.
> If we want to rely on this, then I propose to make a BUG_ON() rather
> than WARN_ON().

I've just proposed a patch to make it not matter for now - the nature of 
iommu-dma makes it slightly more awkward to prevent SWIOTLB from ever 
seeing this condition at all, so I chose not to do that, but as long as 
swiotlb_tbl_map_single() does *something* for conflicting constraints 
without completely falling over, which swiotlb_tbl_unmap_single can then 
undo again, then it should be fine.

Thanks,
Robin.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-04 13:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-28 13:39 [PATCH v5 0/6] Fix double allocation in swiotlb_alloc() Will Deacon
2024-02-28 13:39 ` [PATCH v5 1/6] swiotlb: Fix double-allocation of slots due to broken alignment handling Will Deacon
2024-02-29  5:44   ` Michael Kelley
2024-02-28 13:39 ` [PATCH v5 2/6] swiotlb: Enforce page alignment in swiotlb_alloc() Will Deacon
2024-02-28 13:39 ` [PATCH v5 3/6] swiotlb: Honour dma_alloc_coherent() " Will Deacon
2024-02-28 13:39 ` [PATCH v5 4/6] swiotlb: Fix alignment checks when both allocation and DMA masks are present Will Deacon
2024-02-28 13:39 ` [PATCH v5 5/6] iommu/dma: Force swiotlb_max_mapping_size on an untrusted device Will Deacon
2024-02-29  5:57   ` Michael Kelley
2024-02-28 13:39 ` [PATCH v5 6/6] swiotlb: Remove pointless stride adjustment for allocations >= PAGE_SIZE Will Deacon
2024-02-29  6:07   ` Michael Kelley
2024-02-29  7:36     ` Michael Kelley
2024-02-29 13:33       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-29 15:44         ` Michael Kelley
2024-02-29 15:47           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-01 15:39             ` Petr Tesařík
2024-03-01 16:38               ` Robin Murphy
2024-03-01 17:33                 ` Petr Tesařík
2024-03-01 17:08               ` Petr Tesařík
2024-03-01 17:54                 ` Robin Murphy
2024-03-01 18:42                   ` Petr Tesařík
2024-03-04  3:31                     ` Michael Kelley
2024-03-04 11:00                       ` Petr Tesařík
2024-03-04 13:37                         ` Robin Murphy [this message]
2024-03-04 15:55                           ` Petr Tesařík
2024-03-04 16:02                             ` Will Deacon
2024-03-04 16:10                               ` Michael Kelley
2024-03-04 16:53                                 ` Robin Murphy
2024-03-04 18:22                                   ` Michael Kelley
2024-03-05 11:20                                     ` Robin Murphy
2024-03-05 15:15                                       ` Petr Tesařík
2024-03-04 19:04                                 ` Petr Tesařík
2024-03-05 14:08                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-04 16:04                             ` Michael Kelley
2024-03-04 17:11                               ` Robin Murphy
2024-03-04 18:08                                 ` Michael Kelley
2024-03-05 14:05                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-04 15:32     ` Will Deacon

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