From: Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: mingo@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] sched/fair: reduce minimal imbalance threshold
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 20:04:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jhjimce6ev2.mognet@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200914100340.17608-3-vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
On 14/09/20 11:03, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> The 25% default imbalance threshold for DIE and NUMA domain is large
> enough to generate significant unfairness between threads. A typical
> example is the case of 11 threads running on 2x4 CPUs. The imbalance of
> 20% between the 2 groups of 4 cores is just low enough to not trigger
> the load balance between the 2 groups. We will have always the same 6
> threads on one group of 4 CPUs and the other 5 threads on the other
> group of CPUS. With a fair time sharing in each group, we ends up with
> +20% running time for the group of 5 threads.
>
AIUI this is the culprit:
if (100 * busiest->avg_load <=
env->sd->imbalance_pct * local->avg_load)
goto out_balanced;
As in your case imbalance_pct=120 becomes the tipping point.
Now, ultimately this would need to scale based on the underlying topology,
right? If you have a system with 2x32 cores running {33 threads, 34
threads}, the tipping point becomes imbalance_pct≈103; but then since you
have this many more cores, it is somewhat questionable.
> Consider decreasing the imbalance threshold for overloaded case where we
> use the load to balance task and to ensure fair time sharing.
>
> Signed-off-by: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
> ---
> kernel/sched/topology.c | 2 +-
> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/topology.c b/kernel/sched/topology.c
> index 9079d865a935..1a84b778755d 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/topology.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/topology.c
> @@ -1337,7 +1337,7 @@ sd_init(struct sched_domain_topology_level *tl,
> .min_interval = sd_weight,
> .max_interval = 2*sd_weight,
> .busy_factor = 32,
> - .imbalance_pct = 125,
> + .imbalance_pct = 117,
>
> .cache_nice_tries = 0,
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-09-15 19:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-14 10:03 [PATCH 0/4] sched/fair: Improve fairness between cfs tasks Vincent Guittot
2020-09-14 10:03 ` [PATCH 1/4] sched/fair: relax constraint on task's load during load balance Vincent Guittot
2020-09-14 10:03 ` [PATCH 2/4] sched/fair: reduce minimal imbalance threshold Vincent Guittot
2020-09-15 19:04 ` Valentin Schneider [this message]
2020-09-16 6:53 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-09-16 8:33 ` Valentin Schneider
2020-09-14 10:03 ` [PATCH 3/4] sched/fair: minimize concurrent LBs between domain level Vincent Guittot
2020-09-15 19:04 ` Valentin Schneider
2020-09-16 6:54 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-09-14 10:03 ` [PATCH 4/4] sched/fair: reduce busy load balance interval Vincent Guittot
2020-09-15 9:11 ` Jiang Biao
2020-09-15 9:28 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-09-15 11:36 ` Jiang Biao
2020-09-15 12:42 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-09-16 1:14 ` Jiang Biao
2020-09-15 19:04 ` Valentin Schneider
2020-09-16 7:02 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-09-16 8:34 ` Valentin Schneider
2020-09-14 11:42 ` [PATCH 0/4] sched/fair: Improve fairness between cfs tasks peterz
2020-09-14 12:53 ` Phil Auld
2020-09-14 16:03 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-09-14 15:50 ` Mel Gorman
2020-09-14 16:04 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-09-18 16:39 ` Phil Auld
2020-09-18 17:27 ` Phil Auld
2020-09-15 19:05 ` Valentin Schneider
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