From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758356AbcCVMVF (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:21:05 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:35559 "EHLO plane.gmane.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753885AbcCVMUz (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:20:55 -0400 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: [linux-sunxi] Re: [PATCH v8 2/2] ASoc: sun4i-codec: Add FM, Line and Mic inputs Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:20:27 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20151221123148.1ab6480b@dayas> <20151221123416.51aa938e@dayas> <20151227182157.GI30359@lukather> <20151228040649.475a742f@dayas> <20160106220908.GE9631@lukather> <20160109164832.515d69b0@dayas> <20160312085222.226d89bf@scratchpost.org> <20160314104939.GL8418@lukather> <20160319175124.6bfe3617@scratchpost.org> <20160321180605.GE30977@lukather> <20160321181900.GZ2566@sirena.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 69-196-182-150.dsl.teksavvy.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:z4qx8RTHOS2ASXTJMy7Niyhrk4M= Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, linux-sunxi@googlegroups.com Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org >> I don't think you should focus too much on alsamixer, there's other >> tools to modify the configuration. > The expectation is that most users will use something like UCM and only > system integrators will see the full control set in normal operation. This presumes the "system integrator" (which could very well be the end user in many cases) somehow knows what all the controls do/mean. Anyway, it seems this is an ALSA problem rather than a sunxi problem. Stefan "who wishes ALSA could describe the meaning of all those controls, maybe as a graphical diagram, or as some kind of (hopefully simple) program"