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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>
Cc: hpa@zytor.com (H. Peter Anvin), linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Squashfs without ./..
Date: 25 Mar 2005 07:39:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1k6nvpz67.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3e74c9409b6e383b7b398fe919418d54@mac.com>

Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com> writes:

> Tommy Reynolds wrote:
> > Then it is broken in several ways.
> >
> > First, file systems are not required to implement ".." (only "." is
> > magical, ".." is a courtesy).
> 
> On Mar 24, 2005, at 14:59, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> > Doesn't have anything to do with sorting order or US-ASCII, it has to
> > do with readdir order.  If nothing else, it would be highly surprising
> > if "." and ".." weren't first; it's certainly a de facto standard, if
> > not de jure.
> 
> IMHO, this is one of those cases where "Be liberal in what you accept
> and strict in what you emit" applies strongly.  New filesystems should
> probably always emit "." and ".." in that order with sane behavior,
> and new programs should probably be able to handle it if they don't. I
> would add ".." and "." to squashfs, just so that it acts like the rest
> of the filesystems on the planet, even if it has to emulate them
> internally.  OTOH, I think that the default behavior of find is broken
> and should probably be fixed, maybe by making the default use the full
> readdir and optionally allowing a -fast option that optimizes the
> search using such tricks.

Find is doing a full readdir.  It just looks at the link count
of the directory it is doing the readdir on and if it is the
minimal unix link count of 2 it knows it does not have to stat
directory entries to see if they are directories.

As I recall there is also special handling in find for link count
of 1 to automatically handle filesystems that don't follow the normal
unix conventions so every directory entry must be stated.

Eric

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-03-25 14:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-22 15:47 Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-22 15:59 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-03-23 16:40   ` Pietro Zuco
2005-03-23 17:31     ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-23 17:49       ` Tom Vier
2005-03-24  7:01         ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-24 17:55         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-03-24 19:36           ` Tommy Reynolds
2005-03-24 19:47             ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-24 22:31               ` Andreas Schwab
2005-03-24 19:59             ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-03-24 20:13               ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-24 20:36                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-03-25 13:59                   ` Jesper Juhl
2005-03-27  4:05                     ` Jan Harkes
2005-03-27  9:16                       ` Jesper Juhl
2005-03-25 14:39                 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2005-03-26  3:48                 ` Phil Lougher
2005-03-26  3:52                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-03-26  2:14                     ` Phillip Lougher
2005-04-20  4:39                       ` Jörn Engel
2005-03-26 10:03                   ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-27  1:56                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-03-26  2:39           ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-27  8:11 Adam J. Richter
2005-03-27  8:51 ` Jan Engelhardt

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