From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757086AbXJYRlA (ORCPT ); Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:41:00 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752902AbXJYRkw (ORCPT ); Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:40:52 -0400 Received: from ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com ([166.70.28.69]:43176 "EHLO ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752852AbXJYRkv (ORCPT ); Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:40:51 -0400 From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) To: "H. Peter Anvin" Cc: Arjan van de Ven , Thomas Gleixner , "Huang, Ying" , Andrew Morton , Ingo Molnar , Andi Kleen , Chandramouli Narayanan , LKML , pjones@redhat.com Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3 -v4] x86_64 EFI runtime service support: EFI basic runtime service support References: <1193295473.23935.202.camel@caritas-dev.intel.com> <20071025095639.22f6cad0@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <4720CCBC.1050700@zytor.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:39:13 -0600 In-Reply-To: <4720CCBC.1050700@zytor.com> (H. Peter Anvin's message of "Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:05:00 -0700") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org "H. Peter Anvin" writes: > Arjan van de Ven wrote: >> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:55:44 -0600 >> ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) wrote: >> >>> I don't think there is a compelling case for us to use any efi >>> services at this time >> >> I would almost agree with this if it wasn't for the 1 call that OS >> installers need to tell EFI about bootloader stuff; I've cc'd Peter >> Jones since he'll know better what OS installers need; if they don't >> need it after all... >> > > Well, the original motivation for all of this was to enable implementation of a > EFI framebuffer (UGA/GOP). Now, you can say what you want about EFI (and I > definitely have my opinion on it), but that seems legitimate to me. To be very clear. I think we need the EFI boot parameters but we certainly don't runtime services to implement an EFI framebuffer. Eric