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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Dave Anderson <anderson@redhat.com>
Cc: vgoyal@in.ibm.com, Morton Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Fastboot mailing list <fastboot@lists.osdl.org>,
	linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Fastboot] [PATCH] Kdump(x86): add note type NT_KDUMPINFO tokernel   core dumps
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 10:31:52 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1zmq5awsn.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4332C87C.9CE47E8D@redhat.com> (Dave Anderson's message of "Thu, 22 Sep 2005 11:06:36 -0400")

Dave Anderson <anderson@redhat.com> writes:

> Just flagging the cpu, and then mapping that to the stack pointer found in
> the associated NT_PRSTATUS register set should work OK too.  It gets
> a little muddy if it crashed while running on an IRQ stack, but it still can be
> tracked back from there as well.  (although not if the crashing task overflowed
> the IRQ stack)

You can't track it back from the crashing cpu if the IRQ stack overflows
either.  So I would rather have crash confused when trying to find the
task_struct.  Then to have the kernel fail avoidably while attempting
to capture a core dump.  

Even if you overflow the stack wit a bit of detective work it should still
be possible to show the stack overflowed and correct for it when analyzing
the crash dump.  Doing anything like that from a crashing cpu (in a
reliable way) is very hard. 

> The task_struct would be ideal though -- if the kernel's use of task_structs
> changes in the future, well, then crash is going to need a serious re-write
> anyway...  FWIW, netdump and diskdump use the NT_TASKSTRUCT note
> note to store just the "current" pointer, and not the whole task_struct itself,
> which would just be a waste of space in the ELF header for crash's purposes.
> And looking at the gdb sources, it appears to be totally ignored.  Who
> uses the NT_TASKSTRUCT note anyway?

Good question, especially as the kernel exports whatever we have for
a task struct today in the ELF note.  No ABI compatibility is
maintained.

Given all of that I recommend an empty NT_TASKSTRUCT to flag the
crashing cpu, for now.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2005-09-22 16:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-21  6:56 [PATCH] Kdump(x86): add note type NT_KDUMPINFO to kernel " Vivek Goyal
2005-09-21 14:28 ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2005-09-21 15:17   ` [Fastboot] [PATCH] Kdump(x86): add note type NT_KDUMPINFO tokernel " Dave Anderson
2005-09-22  9:01     ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-09-22 14:08       ` Vivek Goyal
2005-09-22 15:06         ` Dave Anderson
2005-09-22 16:31           ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2005-09-22 20:33             ` Haren Myneni
2005-09-23  5:09             ` Vivek Goyal
2005-09-23  7:22               ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-09-23 15:17               ` Subject: [PATCH] Don't uselessly export task_struct to user space in " Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]             ` <OF0A1E6B6F.F00DC760-ON87257084.005F99D6-88257084.00634A38@us.ibm.com>
2005-09-23  5:19               ` [Fastboot] [PATCH] Kdump(x86): add note type NT_KDUMPINFO tokernel " Vivek Goyal
     [not found]               ` <4332FD56.2F5256F5@redhat.com>
2005-09-23  7:12                 ` [Fastboot] [PATCH] Kdump(x86): add note type NT_KDUMPINFO tokernelcore dumps Eric W. Biederman
2005-09-23 12:01                   ` Vivek Goyal
2005-09-26  6:29                   ` Vivek Goyal
2005-09-22 16:38         ` [Fastboot] [PATCH] Kdump(x86): add note type NT_KDUMPINFO tokernel core dumps Eric W. Biederman
2005-09-22 17:00           ` [Fastboot] [PATCH] Kdump(x86): add note type NT_KDUMPINFOtokernel " Dave Anderson
2005-09-22  7:39   ` [Fastboot] [PATCH] Kdump(x86): add note type NT_KDUMPINFO to kernel " Vivek Goyal
2005-09-22  7:46     ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-22  8:32       ` Vivek Goyal
2005-09-22  9:11     ` Eric W. Biederman

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