From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S268648AbUHaXBc (ORCPT ); Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:01:32 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S268527AbUHaW7d (ORCPT ); Tue, 31 Aug 2004 18:59:33 -0400 Received: from as8-6-1.ens.s.bonet.se ([217.215.92.25]:18089 "EHLO zoo.weinigel.se") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S268568AbUHaWzo (ORCPT ); Tue, 31 Aug 2004 18:55:44 -0400 To: Alan Cox Cc: Erik Mouw , Rogier Wolff , Linux Kernel Mailing List , linux-ide@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Driver retries disk errors. References: <20040830163931.GA4295@bitwizard.nl> <1093952715.32684.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040831135403.GB2854@bitwizard.nl> <1093961570.597.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20040831155653.GD17261@harddisk-recovery.com> <1093965233.599.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> From: Christer Weinigel Organization: Weinigel Ingenjorsbyra AB Date: 01 Sep 2004 00:55:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1093965233.599.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Alan Cox writes: > Retries also pop up in other less obvious cases and conveniently paper > over a wide variety of timeouts, power management quirks and drives just > having a random fit. Eight is probably excessive in all cases. > > For non hard disk cases many devices do want and need retry. For ripping CDs I'd prefer if the application could control retries and not default to what the CD player prefers. I have a CD, KLF -- Ultra Rare Tracks, and unfortunately someone I borrowed it to managed to literally stomp on it, so the record has a lot of scratches. I would very much like to rip as much as possible of this CD so that I can at least listen to part of it, but every time I have tried the CD player just gets stuck in an endless retry loop. The same thing happens when trying to rip a "copy controlled" CD, which is also pretty irritating since this means that I can't rip my Teddybears Stockholm CD and put the songs on my iPod. /Christer -- "Just how much can I get away with and still go to heaven?" Freelance consultant specializing in device driver programming for Linux Christer Weinigel http://www.weinigel.se