From: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Fixing the tty layer was Re: any chance of 2.6.0-test*?
Date: 12 Jan 2003 10:56:37 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3iswuk7xm.fsf_-_@averell.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030112094007$1647@gated-at.bofh.it>
[forgot to cc linux-kernel in the first try, sorry if you see it twice]
Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> writes:
> On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 05:19:08PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
> > The entire tty layer locking is terminally broken and nobody has even
> > started fixing it. Just try a mass of parallel tty/pty activity . It
> > was problematic before, pre-empt has taken it to dead, defunct and
> > buried.
>
> I've looked into this, and wow, it's not a simple fix :(
it has to be fixed for 2.6, no argument.
I took a look at it. I think the easiest strategy would be:
- Make sure all the process context code holds BKL
(most of it does, but not all - sometimes it is buggy like in
disassociate_tty)
I have some patches for that for tty_io.c at least
The local_irq_save in there are buggy, they need to take
a lock.
- Audit the data structures that are touched by interrupts
and add spinlocks.
At least for n_tty.c probably just tty->read_lock needs to be
extended.
Perhaps some can be just "fixed" by ignoring latency and pushing
softirq functions into keventd
(modern CPUs should be fast enough for that)
- Possibly disable module unloading for ldiscs (seems to be rather broken,
although Rusty's new unload algorithm may avoid the worst - not completely
sure)
Probably all doable with some concentrated effort.
Anyone interested in helping ?
-Andi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-01-12 9:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20030110165441$1a8a@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <20030110165505$38d9@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-01-11 12:27 ` Andi Kleen
2003-01-11 13:01 ` Russell King
2003-01-11 13:13 ` Andi Kleen
2003-01-11 14:39 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-11 14:06 ` Andi Kleen
2003-01-11 15:31 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-11 15:25 ` Andi Kleen
2003-01-11 19:18 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-13 3:33 ` Paul Mackerras
2003-01-13 14:59 ` Alan Cox
2003-01-13 18:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-01-14 2:32 ` ide-cs problem (was Re: any chance of 2.6.0-test*?) Paul Mackerras
2003-01-19 16:05 ` any chance of 2.6.0-test*? Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20030112094007$1647@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-01-12 9:56 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2003-01-13 6:41 ` Fixing the tty layer was " Dipankar Sarma
2003-01-13 7:25 ` Andi Kleen
2003-01-13 8:12 ` Dipankar Sarma
2003-01-13 9:15 ` Russell King
2003-01-13 9:36 ` Dipankar Sarma
2003-01-13 6:45 ` Greg KH
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