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From: Vitaly Mayatskikh <v.mayatskih@gmail.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Vitaly Mayatskikh <v.mayatskih@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] Introduce copy_user_handle_tail routine
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:32:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3y74ki9ob.fsf@gravicappa.englab.brq.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <486B9987.8000601@firstfloor.org> (Andi Kleen's message of "Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:06:47 +0200")

Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> writes:

>>> >> Overall you could write it much simpler with a rep ; movs I think,
>>> >> like traditional linux did.
>> >
>> > rep movs can fail.
>
> How? (if it's a byte copy?)

Parameter len is a number of uncopied bytes, it doesn't count bytes
which were loaded into registers before GPF in unrolled
loop. copy_user_handle_tail tries to do a byte copy for, possibly,
remaining bytes, but it can fail at the first read/write, or at the
second, etc. It doesn't know where it will fail.

> The old 2.4 copy_*_user always used to that and it worked just fine AFAIK.

Again, Linus wanted it to be simple plain C routine. rep movs is not in
C language ;)

>>> >> If zerorest is ever 0 then retesting it on every iteration seems
>>> >> somewhat dumb.
>> >
>> > If zerorest is 0, this cycle will never be executed.
>
> Ok but when it's not then it will be executed on each iteration.

Ok, that's matter.

>>> >> I think a simple memset would be actually ok, i don't think we ever zero
>>> >> anything that faults. That would be obviously racy anyways. If the zero
>>> >> are supposed to override something  then a racing user thread could always
>>> >> catch it.
>> >
>> > Linus wanted this routine to be extremely dumb. This is the reason why tail
>> > handling was moved from assembly to C. Yeah, my original patches were in
>> > assembly and on the top of your realization.
>
> My point was that it could be simpler because zeroing should not ever fault
> (copy_in_user is not supposed to zero)

Why do you think that zeroing can never fail, even in userspace?
-- 
wbr, Vitaly

  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-02 15:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-27 21:52 [PATCH 3/3] Fix copy_user on x86_64 Vitaly Mayatskikh
2008-06-28 18:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-30 15:12   ` Vitaly Mayatskikh
2008-06-30 15:55     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-30 16:16       ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-30 18:22       ` Kari Hurtta
2008-07-02 13:48       ` [PATCH 1/2] Introduce copy_user_handle_tail routine Vitaly Mayatskikh
2008-07-02 14:06         ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-02 14:31           ` Vitaly Mayatskikh
2008-07-02 15:06             ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-02 15:32               ` Vitaly Mayatskikh [this message]
2008-07-02 15:40                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-02 15:58                   ` Vitaly Mayatskikh
2008-07-02 18:54                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-03  2:35             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-07 12:09               ` Vitaly Mayatskikh
2008-07-07 12:12                 ` Vitaly Mayatskikh
2008-07-07 16:43                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-07 16:21                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-07 17:05                   ` Vitaly Mayatskikh
2008-07-09 13:03                   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09 13:16                     ` Vitaly Mayatskikh
2008-07-09 13:52                       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-02 13:53       ` [PATCH 2/2] Fix copy_user on x86 Vitaly Mayatskikh
2008-07-02 14:08         ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-02 14:36           ` Vitaly Mayatskikh

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