From: Vitaly Mayatskikh <v.mayatskih@gmail.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Vitaly Mayatskikh <v.mayatskih@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] Introduce copy_user_handle_tail routine
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:32:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3y74ki9ob.fsf@gravicappa.englab.brq.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <486B9987.8000601@firstfloor.org> (Andi Kleen's message of "Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:06:47 +0200")
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> writes:
>>> >> Overall you could write it much simpler with a rep ; movs I think,
>>> >> like traditional linux did.
>> >
>> > rep movs can fail.
>
> How? (if it's a byte copy?)
Parameter len is a number of uncopied bytes, it doesn't count bytes
which were loaded into registers before GPF in unrolled
loop. copy_user_handle_tail tries to do a byte copy for, possibly,
remaining bytes, but it can fail at the first read/write, or at the
second, etc. It doesn't know where it will fail.
> The old 2.4 copy_*_user always used to that and it worked just fine AFAIK.
Again, Linus wanted it to be simple plain C routine. rep movs is not in
C language ;)
>>> >> If zerorest is ever 0 then retesting it on every iteration seems
>>> >> somewhat dumb.
>> >
>> > If zerorest is 0, this cycle will never be executed.
>
> Ok but when it's not then it will be executed on each iteration.
Ok, that's matter.
>>> >> I think a simple memset would be actually ok, i don't think we ever zero
>>> >> anything that faults. That would be obviously racy anyways. If the zero
>>> >> are supposed to override something then a racing user thread could always
>>> >> catch it.
>> >
>> > Linus wanted this routine to be extremely dumb. This is the reason why tail
>> > handling was moved from assembly to C. Yeah, my original patches were in
>> > assembly and on the top of your realization.
>
> My point was that it could be simpler because zeroing should not ever fault
> (copy_in_user is not supposed to zero)
Why do you think that zeroing can never fail, even in userspace?
--
wbr, Vitaly
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-02 15:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-27 21:52 [PATCH 3/3] Fix copy_user on x86_64 Vitaly Mayatskikh
2008-06-28 18:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-30 15:12 ` Vitaly Mayatskikh
2008-06-30 15:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-30 16:16 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-30 18:22 ` Kari Hurtta
2008-07-02 13:48 ` [PATCH 1/2] Introduce copy_user_handle_tail routine Vitaly Mayatskikh
2008-07-02 14:06 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-02 14:31 ` Vitaly Mayatskikh
2008-07-02 15:06 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-02 15:32 ` Vitaly Mayatskikh [this message]
2008-07-02 15:40 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-02 15:58 ` Vitaly Mayatskikh
2008-07-02 18:54 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-03 2:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-07 12:09 ` Vitaly Mayatskikh
2008-07-07 12:12 ` Vitaly Mayatskikh
2008-07-07 16:43 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-07 16:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-07 17:05 ` Vitaly Mayatskikh
2008-07-09 13:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09 13:16 ` Vitaly Mayatskikh
2008-07-09 13:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-02 13:53 ` [PATCH 2/2] Fix copy_user on x86 Vitaly Mayatskikh
2008-07-02 14:08 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-02 14:36 ` Vitaly Mayatskikh
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