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From: Uwaysi Bin Kareem <uwaysi.bin.kareem@paradoxuncreated.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: The 10ms averager in fair.c
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 21:18:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <op.wlgqlvy86426ze@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <op.wlf5j0i76426ze@localhost.localdomain>

Just to illustrate, you have a filter that lasts 10ms, and a cpu process  
that lasts 100uS

Original spike

5 |
4 |
3 |
2 |
1 |
0 |
0ms_______________________10ms
Filtered spike

5
4
3
2
1   .....................
0..                      ..
0ms________________________10ms

Not only is the filtered spike, much lower, but it lasts long beyond the  
100uS spike. (10ms). Why would that be used in something that should  
represent cpu-usage?

Peace Be With You.


On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 13:44:14 +0200, Uwaysi Bin Kareem  
<uwaysi.bin.kareem@paradoxuncreated.com> wrote:

> Hiya. I just had an initial look at fair.c
>
> There seems to be a 10ms averager in there?
>
> You are aware that that means you work on delayed values?
>
> Isn`t that counterintuitive to the principle of sharing?
>
> That means short bursts of cpu-use will be filtered out, and given less  
> cpu time.
> Starting applications won`t have their cpu-usage before 5ms, which is  
> quite a bit on modern machines. Well if you use a linearphase filter, I  
> don`t know what kind of averager you use. The best would ofcourse be to  
> use a minimalphase gaussian averager. Which might be overkill. Atleast a  
> one-pole iir, buf = buf + (-buf + in) * cut)); One pole IIRs also have a  
> better frequency response.
>
> When you are working with low-latencies, wouldn`t it be better if such  
> things are tuned for target latency. I think few care about latency  
> after 0.2ms. So say the filter should be set to 0.4ms max.
>
> Why would you want to filter cpu-usage also really?
>
> Peace Be With You.
>
> (please CC me.)

  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-30 19:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-30 11:44 Uwaysi Bin Kareem
2012-09-30 19:18 ` Uwaysi Bin Kareem [this message]
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2012-10-01 13:24   ` Uwaysi Bin Kareem
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2012-10-02  7:04       ` Uwaysi Bin Kareem
2012-10-02 17:25       ` The 10ms averager in fair.c + granularity Uwaysi Bin Kareem
2012-10-03 15:14       ` Uwaysi Bin Kareem
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2012-10-04 10:23       ` RME Fireface UCX in Classcompliant USB-mode, is not working? Uwaysi Bin Kareem
2012-10-05 19:54       ` The 10ms averager in fair.c Uwaysi Bin Kareem
2012-10-02  6:56   ` Uwaysi Bin Kareem
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2012-10-02  9:28           ` Uwaysi Bin Kareem
2012-09-30 12:16 Uwaysi Bin Kareem

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