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From: "Christopher Hall" <christopher.s.hall@intel.com>
To: "Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: jeffrey.t.kirsher@intel.com, hpa@zytor.com, mingo@redhat.com,
	john.stultz@linaro.org, peterz@infradead.org, x86@kernel.org,
	intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kevin.b.stanton@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/4] Produce system time from correlated clocksource
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 17:18:39 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <op.x6r25dza1774gr@chall-mobl2.amr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1510151014330.3960@nanos>

Thomas,

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 01:15:57 -0700, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>  
wrote:
>> >
>> > > +#define SHADOW_HISTORY_DEPTH 7
>> >
>> > And that number is 7 because?
>>
>> Due to power of 2 it will be 8 instead. As above the useful history is  
>> 8-2*1
>> ms (1 ms is the minimum jiffy length).  Array size 4 would not be enough
>> history for the DSP which requires 4 ms of history, in the worst case.
>
> And how exactly becomes 7 magically 8?

I'm making the array size a power of two, per your suggestion.

In my view, the candidate array sizes are 4 and 8.  But the DSP driver  
code requires that it be at least 8.  Here is my reasoning:

The number of shadow_timekeeper array elements that contain useful history  
is n-2 where n is the size of the shadow_timekeeper array.  This is true  
because shadow_timekeeper[shadow_index] is a copy of tk_core.timekeeper  
(this isn't history).  The next entry of the shadow_timekeeper array may  
be in-flight and contain invalid information, because update_wall_time()  
makes changes to the next entry of shadow timekeeper outside of the  
sequence lock.  If that occurs, get_correlated_timestamp() would not be  
notified of this change through a change in sequence number.

Combining these two requirements, the candidate array sizes and their  
effective history sizes is:

Array Size   Effective History (in elements)
==========   ===============================
4            2				
8            6
16           14

update_wall_clock() checks that the number of elapsed cycles is >=  
tk->cycle_interval before performing any updates to shadow_timekeeper.   
The minimum cycle count (and minimum time) that is contained in each  
history element is equal to cycle_interval which represents a time period  
of 1/HZ seconds.  The smallest configurable period for cycle_interval is 1  
ms (in cycles).  Each history element, therefore, is guaranteed to contain  
1 ms of history for all kernel configurations.  For correct operation of  
the DSP using the proposed ART->system time API we need at least 4 ms of  
history.  To guarantee this much history is available, the array size  
needs to be 8.

Array Size   Minimum Effective History (in ms)
==========   =================================
4            2				
8            6    <----
16           14

Does this make sense for the choice of array size 8?

> Make it a seperate function which can hand in the information and
> leave the PTP specific sample/conversion function alone.

OK.  The audio driver code will conform to the original correlated  
clocksource API.

FYI, I will be away from work and email until 10/28.  Any responses will  
be delayed until then.

Thanks,
Chris

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-20  0:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-12 18:45 [PATCH v4 0/4] Patchset enabling hardware based cross-timestamps for next gen Intel platforms Christopher S. Hall
2015-10-12 18:45 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] Produce system time from correlated clocksource Christopher S. Hall
2015-10-13  4:58   ` Richard Cochran
2015-10-13  7:51     ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-10-13  8:31       ` Richard Cochran
2015-10-13 19:15         ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-10-13 21:12           ` Richard Cochran
2015-10-14  7:21             ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-10-14  9:29               ` Richard Cochran
2015-10-14 14:22                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-10-14 16:18                   ` Richard Cochran
2015-10-15  2:34             ` Christopher Hall
2015-10-15  5:41               ` Richard Cochran
2015-10-15  8:13                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-10-13  5:26   ` Richard Cochran
2015-10-13 13:50   ` Richard Cochran
2015-10-13 19:42   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-10-15  1:57     ` Christopher Hall
2015-10-15  5:57       ` Richard Cochran
2015-10-15  8:15       ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-10-20  0:18         ` Christopher Hall [this message]
2015-10-20  0:36           ` John Stultz
2015-10-20  8:54             ` Richard Cochran
2015-10-20 10:48               ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-10-20 11:51                 ` Richard Cochran
2015-10-20 14:55                   ` Richard Cochran
2015-10-20 19:11                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-10-20 19:36                       ` Richard Cochran
2015-10-20 20:16                       ` John Stultz
2015-10-21  7:44                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-11-03 19:18                           ` Stanton, Kevin B
2015-11-09 21:17                             ` John Stultz
2015-10-12 18:45 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] Always running timer " Christopher S. Hall
2015-10-13  2:03   ` kbuild test robot
2015-11-18 23:53   ` Jacob Pan
2015-10-12 18:45 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] Add PTP_SYS_OFFSET_PRECISE for driver crosstimestamping Christopher S. Hall
2015-10-13 13:59   ` Richard Cochran
2015-10-15  2:47     ` Christopher Hall
2015-11-07  2:15     ` Christopher Hall
2015-10-12 18:45 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] Adds hardware supported cross timestamp Christopher S. Hall
2015-10-13  2:10   ` kbuild test robot
2015-10-13  2:11   ` kbuild test robot
2015-10-13  2:31   ` David Miller

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