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From: "Nigel Cunningham" <ncunningham@linuxmail.org>
To: "Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: What does tainting actually mean?
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 14:00:35 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <opr65eq9ncshwjtr@laptop-linux.wpcb.org.au> (raw)

Hi all.

I'm probably going to regret this, but seeing the current discussion on  
binary modules makes me wonder:

What does tainting actually mean?

What I mean is, how does it help to know that a kernel is tainted? When  
I'm working on Software Suspend and someone sends me an oops, I don't  
really care whether it's marked as tainted or not. For all I know, even if  
it's not tainted, they may have thrown in half a dozen different patches  
aside from Suspend, any one of which could be playing a role in the  
appearance of the oops. It doesn't help me to know that the kernel was  
tainted. It helps me to know what the non-standard additions are (and how  
the kernel was configured), regardless of whether the additions mark the  
kernel tainted or not.

Of course I realise at the same time that maybe tainting has nothing to do  
with saying 'This isn't an unmodified tree' and everything to do with  
saying 'This kernel has had non-GPL code interacting with it'. If that's  
the case, I don't see the relevance of saying (as Paul did a little while  
ago):

"You deceived maintainers who receive "untainted" bug reports."

Indeed, the surrounding lines seem to make it clear that the real issue is  
not fixing bugs but politics. Thus my question: What does tainting  
actually mean?

Regards,

Nigel
-- 
Nigel Cunningham
C/- Westminster Presbyterian Church Belconnen
61 Templeton Street, Cook, ACT 2614, Australia.
+61 (2) 6251 7727 (wk)

             reply	other threads:[~2004-04-28  4:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-28  4:00 Nigel Cunningham [this message]
2004-04-28  4:27 ` Jurriaan
2004-04-28  4:30   ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-04-28  5:19     ` Chris Friesen
2004-04-28  5:18       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-04-28 12:10         ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-04-28 12:48           ` Måns Rullgård
2004-04-28 13:04             ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2004-04-28 13:27               ` Måns Rullgård
2004-04-28 14:22                 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2004-04-28 15:56           ` Joseph Pingenot
2004-04-28 16:01         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-05-03 12:45     ` Pavel Machek
2004-05-03 18:50       ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-04-28  5:51 ` Karim Yaghmour
2004-04-28  6:51   ` Keith Duthie
2004-04-28 10:26   ` Ville Herva
2004-05-06 15:25 ` Anthony de Boer
     [not found] <04Apr28.020259edt.41801@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca>
2004-04-28  6:18 ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-04-28 10:37   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz

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