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From: Jonathan Lundell <jlundell@pobox.com>
To: Andreas Dilger <adilger@turbolinux.com>, Chris Wedgwood <cw@f00f.org>
Cc: Andreas Dilger <adilger@turbolinux.com>,
	"Albert D. Cahalan" <acahalan@cs.uml.edu>,
	Ben LaHaise <bcrl@redhat.com>,
	Ragnar Kjxrstad <kernel@ragnark.vestdata.no>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mike@bigstorage.com, kevin@bigstorage.com, linux-lvm@sistina.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 64 bit scsi read/write
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 17:49:55 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <p0510030ab77546a455f2@[10.128.7.49]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200107132204.f6DM4TR3014602@webber.adilger.int>
In-Reply-To: <200107132204.f6DM4TR3014602@webber.adilger.int>

At 4:04 PM -0600 2001-07-13, Andreas Dilger wrote:
>**) As I said in my previous posting, it depends on if/how MD RAID does
>    write ordering of I/O to the data sector and the parity sector.  If
>    it holds back the parity write until the data I/O(s) are complete, and
>    trusts the data over parity on recovery, you should be OK unless you
>    have multiple failures (i.e. bad disk + crash).  If it doesn't do this
>    ordering, or trusts parity over data, then you are F***ed (I doubt it
>    would have this problem).

That wouldn't help, would it, if >1 data sectors were being written.

The fault mode of a sector simply not being written seems like a real 
weak point of both RAID-1 and RAID-5. Not that RAID-5 parity ever 
gets checked, I think, under normal circumstances, nor RAID-1 mirrors 
get compared, but if they were check and there was an parity or 
mirror-compare error and no other indication of a fault (eg CRC), 
there's no way to recover correct data.
-- 
/Jonathan Lundell.

  reply	other threads:[~2001-07-14  0:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-07-01  4:53 [RFC][PATCH] first cut 64 bit block support Ben LaHaise
2001-07-03  4:53 ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2001-07-04  2:19   ` [PATCH] 64 bit scsi read/write Ben LaHaise
2001-07-04  7:11     ` Alan Cox
2001-07-05  6:34     ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2001-07-05  7:35       ` Ben LaHaise
2001-07-13 18:20         ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-07-13 20:41           ` Andreas Dilger
2001-07-13 21:07             ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-13 22:04               ` Andreas Dilger
2001-07-14  0:49                 ` Jonathan Lundell [this message]
2001-07-14 12:27                 ` Paul Jakma
2001-07-14 14:48                   ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-14 15:42                     ` Paul Jakma
2001-07-14 17:18                       ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-20 17:03                       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-07-16 18:53                   ` Andreas Dilger
2001-07-16 19:13                     ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2001-07-13 21:14             ` Alan Cox
2001-07-14  3:23               ` Andrew Morton
2001-07-14  8:45                 ` Alan Cox
2001-07-14 14:50                   ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-14 20:11                     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-15  1:21                       ` Andrew Morton
2001-07-15  1:53                         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-15  3:36                       ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-15  6:05                         ` John Alvord
2001-07-15  6:07                           ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-15 13:16                             ` Ken Hirsch
2001-07-15 14:50                               ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-15 22:14                               ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-17  0:31                             ` Juan Quintela
2001-07-15 13:44                         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-15 14:39                           ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-15 15:32                             ` Alan Cox
2001-07-15 15:33                               ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-15 16:24                               ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-15 15:06                           ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-15 15:22                             ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-15 17:44                             ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-15 17:47                             ` Justin T. Gibbs
2001-07-15 23:14                               ` Rod Van Meter
2001-07-16  0:37                                 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-16 15:11                                   ` Rod Van Meter
2001-07-16  8:56                               ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-16 13:19                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-16  1:08                           ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-07-16  8:49                             ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-21 19:18                             ` Alexander Griesser
2001-07-22  3:52                               ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-07-23 14:41                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-24  4:29                                   ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-07-24 11:45                                     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-07-14 15:41                   ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-14 17:00                     ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-14 17:33                   ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-15  4:02                     ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-15  5:46                     ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-15 17:10                   ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-15 17:39                   ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-26  2:18     ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2001-07-26 16:24       ` Andreas Dilger
2001-08-10 19:42       ` Ben LaHaise
2001-08-10 19:51       ` Ragnar Kjørstad
2001-08-10 20:02         ` Ben LaHaise
2001-08-11  0:18           ` Steve Lord
2001-08-11 21:44       ` Matti Aarnio
2001-07-04 10:16 ` [RFC][PATCH] first cut 64 bit block support Chris Wedgwood
2001-07-04 16:59   ` Ben LaHaise
2001-07-14 15:08 [PATCH] 64 bit scsi read/write Ed Tomlinson
2001-07-19  7:35 [PATCH] 64 bit SCSI read/write Andre Hedrick

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