From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 19 May 2001 13:45:56 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 19 May 2001 13:45:47 -0400 Received: from geos.coastside.net ([207.213.212.4]:47021 "EHLO geos.coastside.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 19 May 2001 13:45:40 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <81BywVLHw-B@khms.westfalen.de> In-Reply-To: <811opRpHw-B@khms.westfalen.de> <811opRpHw-B@khms.westfalen.de> <81BywVLHw-B@khms.westfalen.de> Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 10:45:06 -0700 To: kaih@khms.westfalen.de (Kai Henningsen), linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: Jonathan Lundell Subject: Re: LANANA: To Pending Device Number Registrants Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org At 10:42 AM +0200 2001-05-19, Kai Henningsen wrote: > > >Make your config script look at the hardware MAC addresses. Those don't >> >change. >> >> They're not necessarily unique, though. > >So if you plug both into the same network segment, that segment is broken? >That looks like very stupid design to me. > >It's not as if getting enough unique MAC addresses was particularly >expensive. These days, even el-cheapo PC network cards get that right. >(And have for quite a number of years.) Many do, some don't. Moreover, the MAC address is volatile in that it can be changed at will (via, eg, ifconfig). I assume that the reason that Sun (for example) defaults to all MAC addresses on a system being the same is that it doesn't make sense, ordinarily, to plug two Ethernet interfaces into the same network segment. If, for some reason, you really want to do that, there's ifconfig ready to reassign the MAC address. If I plug both into the same network segments by accident (because I can't tell which is which, say), then my configuration is nearly as broken with different MAC addresses as with identical ones; the fix is to replug correctly, not to change MAC addresses. -- /Jonathan Lundell.