From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932123AbWFFHB6 (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Jun 2006 03:01:58 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932124AbWFFHB6 (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Jun 2006 03:01:58 -0400 Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:57308 "EHLO mx2.suse.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932123AbWFFHB6 (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Jun 2006 03:01:58 -0400 To: Chris Wright Cc: Alan Cox , Francois Romieu , Jeff Garzik , Andrew Morton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: merging new drivers (was Re: 2.6.18 -mm merge plans) References: <20060604135011.decdc7c9.akpm@osdl.org> <20060605013223.GD17361@havoc.gtf.org> <20060605065856.GA1313@electric-eye.fr.zoreil.com> <1149503559.30554.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1149503784.3111.48.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20060606020245.GN29676@moss.sous-sol.org> From: Andi Kleen Date: 06 Jun 2006 09:01:48 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20060606020245.GN29676@moss.sous-sol.org> Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Chris Wright writes: > * Arjan van de Ven (arjan@infradead.org) wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-06-05 at 11:32 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > > > It isn't just drivers. Xen has the same problem. > > > > Xen has many problems. This is not nearly their biggest ;) > > What is the biggest, or even top 3 or 5? I've a todo list of some I would say the biggest is that things haven't gotten submitted for so long and aren't not resubmitted quickly. e.g. Xen code needs a lot of arch/* cleanups in small patches that should be just submitted, fixed, resubmitted quickly. Many of them could be already merged. For example Jan Beulich has been sending many of the cleanups he needed for x86-64/i386 Xen immediately and at least for x86-64 I merged most of them. If the other things were submitted earlier a lot of it could be already merged too. Then Xen net/block/char etc. drivers should be submitted to the respective maintainers independently (they are useful even without the rest of Xen in HVM guests) > 140-odd entries which are being worked on. It's slow and tedious, > but in progress. What I would do is to concentrate on the small cleanup patches first and post them as soon as you fix them. I think a lot of them were actually ok without changes. Then bigger stuff piece by piece. You don't need to wait to fix everything first. -Andi