From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: mingo@elte.hu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, davej@suse.de
Subject: Re: Intel P6 vs P7 system call performance
Date: 17 Dec 2002 09:56:20 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <p73smwxrpl7.fsf@oldwotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Linus Torvalds's message of "17 Dec 2002 01:54:31 +0100"
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com> writes:
>
> That NMI problem is pretty fundamentally unfixable due to the stupid
> sysenter semantics, but we could just make the NMI handlers be real
> careful about it and fix it up if it happens.
You just have to make the NMI a task gate with an own TSS, then the
microcode will set up an own stack for you.
The only issue afterwards is that "current" does not work, but that
can be worked around by being a bit careful in the handler.
It has to run with interrupts off too to avoid a race with an
timer interrupt which uses current (or alternatively the timer
interrupt could check for the "in nmi condition" - I don't think
any other interrupts access current except when they crash)
[in theory it would be also possible to align the NMI stacks to
8K and put a "pseudo" task into that stack, but it would look
a bit inelegant for me]
Using a task gate would be a good idea for kernel stack faults and
double faults too, then it would be at least possible to get an oops
for them, not the usual double fault.
[x86-64 does it similarly, except that it uses ISTs instead of task
gates and avoids the current problem by using an explicit base register]
I cannot implement SYSENTER for x86-64/32bit emulation, but I think
I can change the vsyscall code to use SYSCALL, not SYSENTER. The only
issue is that I cannot easily use a fixmap to map into 32bit processes,
because the kernel fixmap are way up into the 48bit address space
and not reachable from compatibility mode.
I suspect a similar trick as with the lazy vmallocs - map it in the
page fault handler on demand will work. I hope there won't be much
more of these special cases though, do_page_fault is getting
awfully complicated.
-Andi
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2002-12-17 8:56 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2002-12-17 16:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-18 5:25 ` Brian Gerst
2002-12-18 6:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-21 11:24 ` Ingo Molnar
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2002-12-22 15:45 Nakajima, Jun
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2002-12-22 16:00 ` Jamie Lokier
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2002-12-19 22:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-12-19 22:22 ` Linus Torvalds
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2002-12-20 10:08 ` Ulrich Drepper
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2002-12-21 0:09 ` Linus Torvalds
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2002-12-24 20:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-24 20:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-12-24 20:39 ` Linus Torvalds
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2003-01-10 17:11 ` Linus Torvalds
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2002-12-18 20:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-12-18 22:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-12-18 22:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-18 22:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-12-20 0:53 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-12-20 1:47 ` Linus Torvalds
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2002-12-18 1:30 Nakajima, Jun
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2002-12-18 4:05 ` Linus Torvalds
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2002-12-18 4:07 ` Linus Torvalds
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2002-12-20 3:05 ` Alan Cox
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2002-12-17 19:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
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