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From: Martin Jambor <mjambor@suse.cz>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"the arch\/x86 maintainers" <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: objtool warnings for kernel/trace/trace_selftest_dynamic.o
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 18:38:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ri6va3po1qo.fsf@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181218211501.GD25620@tassilo.jf.intel.com>

Hi,

On Tue, Dec 18 2018, Andi Kleen wrote:
>> OK, I have read through it and with the caveats that I don't quite
>> understand what the failure is, that also believe attribute noclone
>> should not affect frame pointer generation, and that I don't quite get
>> how LTO comes into play, my comments are the following:
>
>> 
>> I am the developer who introduced attribute noclone to GCC and also the
>> one who advises against using it :-) ...at least without also using the
>> noinline attribute, the combination means "
>
> The function in question uses noinline too.
>
>> I want only one or zero
>> copies of this function in the compiled assembly" which you might need
>> if you do fancy stuff in inline assembly, for example.
>
> For this case we only want one non inlined copy because it is used as a
> test case for a function tracer.
>
> LTO comes into play because it originally relied on being in a separate
> file, so it would not be inlined, but with LTO that doesn't work.
>
>> 
>> I believe that when people use noclone on its own, in 99 out 100 cases
>> they actually want something else.  Usually there is something that
>
> AFAIK there is no noclone without noinline in the kernel tree.
>
>
>> references the function from code (such as assembly) or a tool that the
>> compiler does know about and then they should use the "used" attribute.
>
> Neither in the ftrace case, nor in the KVM case (another user which
> has fancy inline assembly that cannot be duplicated) that's the case.
> It's just about having exactly one out of line instance.
>
> So based on that I think noclone is fine. Of course there 
> is still the open question why exactly the frame pointer disappears.

I agree, I originally thought the problem was something else.

Thanks for the clarification,

Martin

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-12-19 17:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-16 18:33 Arnd Bergmann
2018-12-17 17:39 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-12-17 18:04   ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-17 18:16     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-12-17 19:29       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-17 20:55         ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-17 22:35           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-17 23:59             ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-18  9:19               ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-18 21:22                 ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-17 21:31         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-12-17 22:36           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-12-18  0:06             ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-18  2:49               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-12-18  4:22                 ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-18  9:28                 ` Miroslav Benes
2018-12-18 12:15                   ` Martin Jambor
2018-12-18 12:31                     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-12-18 14:01                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-12-18 21:20                       ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-19  3:44                         ` Sean Christopherson
2018-12-19 17:31                       ` Martin Jambor
2018-12-18 21:15                     ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-18 21:57                       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-12-18 22:13                         ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-18 22:16                           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-12-18 23:26                             ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-18 23:40                               ` Steven Rostedt
2018-12-19 17:38                       ` Martin Jambor [this message]
2018-12-18  3:05             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-12-17 23:54           ` Andi Kleen
2018-12-17 21:03       ` Andi Kleen

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