mirror of https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.com>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com>,
	Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
	Laura Abbott <labbott@fedoraproject.org>,
	"Gustavo F. Padovan" <gustavo@padovan.org>,
	Johan Hedberg <johan.hedberg@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"bluez mailin list (linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org)" 
	<linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ming Lei <ming.lei@canonical.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RESEND][PATCH] Bluetooth: Make request workqueue freezable
Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 08:29:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5h7fs3u5gy.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1432057375.3970.4.camel@suse.com>

At Tue, 19 May 2015 19:42:55 +0200,
Oliver Neukum wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 2015-05-19 at 19:13 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > At Tue, 19 May 2015 10:26:46 -0400 (EDT),
> > Alan Stern wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > >  Of just have request_firmware()
> > > > > > actually sleep until userspace is ready. Seriously, why is
> > > > > > request_firmware not just sleeping for us.
> > > 
> > > It won't work.  The request_firmware call is part of the probe 
> > > sequence, which in turn is part of the resume sequence.  Userspace 
> > > doesn't start running again until the resume sequence is finished.  If 
> > > request_firmware waited for userspace, it would hang.
> > 
> > Note that the recent request_firmware() doesn't need the user-space
> > invocation (unless the fallback is explicitly enabled) but loads the
> 
> That is a dangerous approach. You cannot be sure you can do file IO.
> It depends on the exact shape of the device tree.
 
It's the reason why firmware loader still takes UMH lock (thus we're
seeing this very problem).

> > file directly.  And, request_firmware() for the cached data is valid
> > to be called in the resume path.
> 
> Well, yes, if your data is cached in RAM, all is well. But that leads
> to the same problem one step further. What must be cached?

The data is cached in RAM.  More specifically, the former loaded
firmware files are reloaded and saved at suspend for each device
object.  See fw_pm_notify() in firmware_class.c.

The question is then why the cached data isn't used.  I have no
concrete answer to it for now, need more investigation, but my wild
guess is that it's because the device itself is being renewed.
Or, something wrong in firmware_class.c.


Takashi

  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-20  6:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-12  0:52 Laura Abbott
2015-05-12  1:07 ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-05-12  1:46   ` Laura Abbott
2015-05-12 15:14     ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-05-13  1:18       ` Laura Abbott
2015-05-19  9:46         ` Takashi Iwai
2015-05-19 14:26           ` Alan Stern
2015-05-19 14:52             ` Oliver Neukum
2015-05-19 15:22             ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-05-19 17:17               ` Alan Stern
2015-05-19 17:13             ` Takashi Iwai
2015-05-19 17:42               ` Oliver Neukum
2015-05-20  6:29                 ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2015-05-20  8:40                   ` Oliver Neukum
2015-05-20  9:46                     ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-05-20 12:44                       ` Takashi Iwai
2015-05-20 23:42                         ` Laura Abbott
2015-05-21  4:21                           ` Takashi Iwai
2015-05-21 12:07                             ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-05-21 12:36                               ` Takashi Iwai
2015-05-21 14:18                                 ` Alan Stern
2015-05-21 14:39                                   ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-05-21 15:26                                     ` Alan Stern
2015-05-21 15:35                                       ` Takashi Iwai
2015-05-21 17:27                                         ` Arend van Spriel
2015-05-21 17:32                                           ` Takashi Iwai
2015-05-21 20:46                                             ` Arend van Spriel
2015-05-22 11:30                                               ` Oliver Neukum
2015-05-21 17:37                                         ` Alan Stern
2015-05-21 18:11                                           ` Takashi Iwai
2015-05-21 18:17                                             ` Laura Abbott
2015-05-22  0:21                                       ` Laura Abbott
2015-05-22  3:13                                         ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-05-28  0:47                                           ` Laura Abbott
2015-06-02  1:14                                           ` [PATCH 1/2] Bluetooth: Add reset_resume function Laura Abbott
2015-06-02  1:28                                             ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-06-02 14:17                                               ` Josh Boyer
2015-06-02 15:07                                                 ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-06-02  7:47                                             ` Oliver Neukum
2015-06-02  1:14                                           ` [PATCH 2/2] Bluetooth: btusb: " Laura Abbott
2015-06-02  1:32                                             ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-05-22  7:37                                         ` [RESEND][PATCH] Bluetooth: Make request workqueue freezable Arend van Spriel
2015-05-22  7:41                                           ` Arend van Spriel
2015-05-21 15:04                                   ` Takashi Iwai
2015-05-20 10:02                     ` Ming Lei

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=s5h7fs3u5gy.wl-tiwai@suse.de \
    --to=tiwai@suse.de \
    --cc=davem@davemloft.net \
    --cc=gustavo@padovan.org \
    --cc=johan.hedberg@gmail.com \
    --cc=labbott@fedoraproject.org \
    --cc=labbott@redhat.com \
    --cc=linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-usb@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=marcel@holtmann.org \
    --cc=ming.lei@canonical.com \
    --cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=oneukum@suse.com \
    --cc=rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com \
    --cc=stern@rowland.harvard.edu \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox

all inboxes | Powered by JetHome®