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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linaro.org>,
	Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	Arvind Yadav <arvind.yadav.cs@gmail.com>,
	Bhumika Goyal <bhumirks@gmail.com>,
	Deepa Dinamani <deepa.kernel@gmail.com>,
	Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	dharageswari.r@intel.com, gudishax.kranthikumar@intel.com,
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	jeeja.kp@intel.com, Naveen M <naveen.m@intel.com>,
	Vinod Koul <vinod.koul@intel.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@oracle.com>,
	Takashi Sakamoto <o-takashi@sakamocchi.jp>,
	Fabian Frederick <fabf@skynet.be>,
	SF Markus Elfring <elfring@users.sourceforge.net>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/7] sound: core: Avoid using timespec for struct snd_pcm_status
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 12:49:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5hfubfdn4h.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK8P3a1QBpN6KdSYRX-T2H1gGxxoOWJAyPBwgZSaa1gw1LKkKw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 12:14:55 +0200,
Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> > On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 08:18:04 +0200,
> > Baolin Wang wrote:
> >>
> >> The struct snd_pcm_status will use 'timespec' type variables to record
> >> timestamp, which is not year 2038 safe on 32bits system.
> >>
> >> Userspace will use SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_STATUS and SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_STATUS_EXT
> >> as commands to issue ioctl() to fill the 'snd_pcm_status' structure in
> >> userspace. The command number is always defined through _IOR/_IOW/IORW,
> >> so when userspace changes the definition of 'struct timespec' to use
> >> 64-bit types, the command number also changes.
> >>
> >> Thus in the kernel, we now need to define two versions of each such ioctl
> >> and corresponding ioctl commands to handle 32bit time_t and 64bit time_t
> >> in native mode:
> >> struct snd_pcm_status32 {
> >>       ......
> >>       struct { s32 tv_sec; s32 tv_nsec; } trigger_tstamp;
> >>       struct { s32 tv_sec; s32 tv_nsec; } tstamp;
> >>       ......
> >> }
> >>
> >> struct snd_pcm_status64 {
> >>       ......
> >>       struct { s64 tv_sec; s64 tv_nsec; } trigger_tstamp;
> >>       struct { s64 tv_sec; s64 tv_nsec; } tstamp;
> >>       ......
> >> }
> >
> > I'm confused.  It's different from timespec64?  So 32bit user-space
> > would need to use a new own-type timespec instead of the standard
> > timespec that is compliant with y2038?
> 
> It's complicated:
> 
> The definition of 'timespec' that user space sees comes from glibc,
> and while that currently uses the traditional '{ long tv_sec;
> long tv_nsec; }' definition, it will have to change to something like
> (still simplified):
> 
> #if __32BIT && __64_BIT_TIME_T
> typedef long long time_t;
> #else
> typedef long time_t;
> #endif
> struct timespec {
>         time_t tv_sec;
> #if __BIG_ENDIAN && __32BIT && __64_BIT_TIME_T
>         unsigned int :32;
> #endif
>        long tv_nsec;
> #if __LITTLE_ENDIAN && __32BIT && __64_BIT_TIME_T
>         unsigned int pad;
> #endif
> } __attribute__((aligned(8)));
> 
> which matches the layout that a 64-bit kernel uses, aside
> from the nanosecond padding.

Wow, that is really messy.


> The kernel uses timespec64 internally, which is defined as
> "{ s64 tv_sec; long tv_nsec };", so this has the padding
> in a different place on big-endian architectures, and has a
> different alignment and size on i386. We plan to introduce
> a 'struct __kernel_timespec' that is compatible with the
> __64_BIT_TIME_T version of the user timespec, but that
> doesn't exist yet.
> 
> If you prefer, we can probably introduce it now with Baolin's
> series, I think Deepa was planning to post a patch to add
> it soon anyway.

Yes, this sounds like a saner solution than defining the own timespec
at each place individually.  Then we can have better conversion
macros, too, I suppose.

And, if we have kernel_timespec (or kernel_timespec64 or such), can
this deprecate the existing timespec64 usages, too?  I see that
timespec64 is internal only, so consolidation would be beneficial for
code simplification.


Thanks!

Takashi

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-22 10:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-21  6:18 [RFC PATCH 0/7] Fix year 2038 issue for sound subsystem Baolin Wang
2017-09-21  6:18 ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] sound: Replace timespec with timespec64 Baolin Wang
2017-09-21 10:02   ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-09-21  6:18 ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] sound: core: Avoid using timespec for struct snd_pcm_status Baolin Wang
2017-09-22  9:31   ` Takashi Iwai
2017-09-22 10:14     ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-09-22 10:49       ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2017-09-22 11:43         ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-09-22 12:19           ` Takashi Iwai
2017-09-21  6:18 ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] sound: core: Avoid using timespec for struct snd_pcm_sync_ptr Baolin Wang
2017-09-21 12:50   ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-09-22  6:47     ` Baolin Wang
2017-09-22  8:48       ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-09-26 22:24         ` Baolin Wang
2017-09-21  6:18 ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] sound: core: Avoid using timespec for struct snd_rawmidi_status Baolin Wang
2017-09-21 12:56   ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-09-22  1:54     ` Baolin Wang
2017-09-21  6:18 ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] sound: core: Avoid using timespec for struct snd_timer_status Baolin Wang
2017-09-21 13:14   ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-09-22  2:03     ` Baolin Wang
2017-09-21  6:18 ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] uapi: sound: Avoid using timespec for struct snd_ctl_elem_value Baolin Wang
2017-09-21 12:58   ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-09-26 21:54     ` Baolin Wang
2017-09-21  6:18 ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] sound: core: Avoid using timespec for struct snd_timer_tread Baolin Wang
2017-09-21 13:09   ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-09-22  3:00     ` Baolin Wang
2017-09-22  7:57       ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-09-22  8:38         ` Baolin Wang
2017-09-22  4:07 ` [RFC PATCH 0/7] Fix year 2038 issue for sound subsystem Takashi Sakamoto
2017-09-22  5:30   ` Baolin Wang
2017-09-22  9:15   ` Mark Brown
2017-09-22  9:17     ` Takashi Iwai

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