From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758667AbYDYG20 (ORCPT ); Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:28:26 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756635AbYDYG2T (ORCPT ); Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:28:19 -0400 Received: from ns2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:36654 "EHLO mx2.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756468AbYDYG2S (ORCPT ); Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:28:18 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:28:17 +0200 Message-ID: From: Takashi Iwai To: Stas Sergeev Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: 2.6.25-mm1 (snd-pcsp doesn't like DEBUG_PAGEALLOC) In-Reply-To: <4811555E.3040509@aknet.ru> References: <20080418014757.52fb4a4f.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20080419021343.GA3503@nineveh.local> <20080418200237.b5a9e805.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20080419041429.GA8508@anvil.corenet.prv> <20080418212934.bbe84ee2.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <480CD50F.20706@aknet.ru> <480E2EE5.5040208@aknet.ru> <480F95BE.60109@aknet.ru> <4811555E.3040509@aknet.ru> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.5 (Almost Unreal) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.7 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Sanj=F2?=) APEL/10.6 MULE XEmacs/21.5 (beta28) (fuki) (+CVS-20070806) (i386-suse-linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org At Fri, 25 Apr 2008 07:51:58 +0400, Stas Sergeev wrote: > > Hello. > > Takashi Iwai wrote: > > No, I don't think input-pcspkr would be ever easily obsoleted by > > snd-pcsp. People definitely want a system without the sound subsystem > > but with a beep. > If you don't enable sound, then you > can't enable snd-pcsp, and so the > pcspkr can be enabled. Yeah, of course. Don't mix up with the argument about Kconfig dependency issues. I just reacted against your statement that input pcspkr driver will be obsoleted. > But if you have enabled the sound, > what's the use in not seeing the > snd-pcsp in the config? > Because most people already had > pcspkr enabled I guess, this just > reduces the availability of snd-pcsp > by an order of magnitude. And the > reason for that, is... ? I actually removed the dependency from snd-pcsp Kconfig again since this causes a dependency loop (at least, kbuild can't handle properly). But anyway, as mentioned in my previous post, snd-pcsp wouldn't be enabled on most of distros' kernels because it cannot be built together with input-pcspkr driver, unfortunately... Takashi