From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.de>
Cc: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
pgynther@google.com, linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: bluetooth related firmware loader spew on resume.
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 11:53:46 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5hioi2xmf9.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1416998616.3171.13.camel@linux-0dmf.site>
At Wed, 26 Nov 2014 11:43:36 +0100,
Oliver Neukum wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2014-11-26 at 11:31 +0100, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > At Wed, 26 Nov 2014 11:10:23 +0100,
> > Oliver Neukum wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2014-11-26 at 09:52 +0100, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > > At Wed, 26 Nov 2014 14:15:27 +0900,
> > >
> > > > In order to paper over this, we may also remember the failing firmware
> > > > and avoid loading it. This might be an easer way than the endless
> > > > fight against UMH race...
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > the full fix would be to implement reset_resume() for btusb.
> > > It seems to me that setup() should be split in two methods,
> > > one to request the firmware from user space and the second
> > > to transfer it to the device. reset_resume() would just need
> > > to repeat the second operation.
> >
> > I'm not against it, but one slight drawback is that you'll have to
> > remember the firmware content to transfer by the driver itself in this
> > scenario. In the firmware loader framework, the content is re-read
> > at resume so that the largish content isn't kept unnecessarily during
> > the whole operation.
>
> That isn't a drawback but an advantage. Firmware for devices that
> do power management needs to be in RAM. The right time to free it
> is in disconnect(). But why does that mean that the driver has to
> manage the firmware? Can't the firmware layer do it?
The f/w loader remembers the f/w names of the successful loads, and
retries to load them automatically at the suspend time. But it
doesn't remember/cache the failed loads. So, when the driver retires
request_firmware() for a non-existing file in the resume path, it
actually reaches to the f/w loading part again unexpectedly.
Takashi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-11-26 10:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-11-11 18:12 Dave Jones
2014-11-25 16:40 ` Takashi Iwai
2014-11-26 5:15 ` Marcel Holtmann
2014-11-26 8:52 ` Takashi Iwai
2014-11-26 10:10 ` Oliver Neukum
2014-11-26 10:31 ` Takashi Iwai
2014-11-26 10:43 ` Oliver Neukum
2014-11-26 10:53 ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2014-11-26 14:08 ` Marcel Holtmann
2014-11-26 14:23 ` Oliver Neukum
2014-11-26 14:31 ` Takashi Iwai
2014-11-26 14:38 ` Oliver Neukum
2014-11-26 14:05 ` Marcel Holtmann
2014-11-26 14:12 ` Takashi Iwai
2014-11-26 14:27 ` Oliver Neukum
2014-11-26 15:21 ` Takashi Iwai
2014-11-27 14:43 ` Takashi Iwai
2014-11-26 14:16 ` Oliver Neukum
2014-11-26 14:56 ` Mihai Donțu
2014-11-26 15:19 ` Takashi Iwai
2014-11-26 15:26 ` Mihai Donțu
2014-11-26 15:27 ` Takashi Iwai
2014-11-26 17:42 ` Arend van Spriel
2014-11-26 18:13 ` Takashi Iwai
2014-11-27 8:59 ` Arend van Spriel
2014-11-27 9:17 ` Takashi Iwai
2014-11-27 9:29 ` Arend van Spriel
2014-11-27 9:46 ` Arend van Spriel
2014-11-27 10:09 ` Takashi Iwai
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