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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Colin Guthrie <cguthrie@mandriva.org>, Tejun Heo <teheo@suse.de>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] sound: make OSS device number claiming optional
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 12:45:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5hzlaemtdx.wl%tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090805112649.4a59ce70@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>

At Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:26:49 +0100,
Alan Cox wrote:
> 
> > As far as I understand, the current problem is that ALSA core becomes
> > dependent when you build with CONFIG_SND_*_OSS config, even if you
> > load no snd-*-oss modules and use only ALSA-native ones.  It's because
> > the OSS device registration is done through the ALSA snd module.
> > Thus, loading ALSA modules always results in loading soundcore
> > module, too.
> 
> That isn't a bug, but a feature.

Not really :)  The soundcore is only for OSS device files.  As long as
you use only ALSA-native APIs, you don't need it.  But, currently it's
loaded and initialized just because of the module dependency.  This is
no bug but also not an intended feature.

> > So... instead of hacking around soundcore stuff, splitting off the OSS
> > (soundcore) dependency from ALSA snd module could be another solution?
> > Then soundcore doesn't have to be loaded unless you load snd-*-oss or
> > any real OSS modules.
> 
> This makes it worse.

Well, the only regression would be the case where you create static
/dev/dsp (or else) devices and let auto-loading through sound-slot-*
or sound-service-*-* aliases.  Of course, this still works if you
load soundcore in some way.

What I suggested in the above is to cut off an unneeded dependency
between soundcore and ALSA-native stuff instead of hacking soundcore.
It won't change anything else, so everything else can coexist as
before.


Just my $0.02, though...

Takashi

  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-05 10:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-05  6:35 [PATCH 1/2] chrdev: implement __[un]register_chrdev() Tejun Heo
2009-08-05  6:40 ` [PATCH 2/2] sound: make OSS device number claiming optional Tejun Heo
2009-08-05  9:15   ` Alan Cox
2009-08-05  9:24     ` Colin Guthrie
2009-08-05  9:59       ` Alan Cox
2009-08-05 10:14         ` Takashi Iwai
2009-08-05 10:26           ` Alan Cox
2009-08-05 10:45             ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2009-08-05 11:15               ` Alan Cox
2009-08-05 11:34                 ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-05 12:35               ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-05 13:11                 ` Alan Cox
2009-08-05 14:16                   ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-05  9:32     ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-05 10:00       ` Alan Cox
2009-08-05 11:27         ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-05 12:48           ` Alan Cox
2009-08-05 14:13             ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-05 14:29               ` Alan Cox
2009-08-05 16:02                 ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-05 16:33                   ` Alan Cox
2009-08-05 16:38                     ` Alan Cox
2009-08-05 16:52                     ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-05 17:01                       ` Alan Cox
2009-08-06  5:55                         ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-05  7:04 ` [PATCH 1/2] chrdev: implement __[un]register_chrdev() Takashi Iwai
2009-08-05  7:11   ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-05  7:20     ` Takashi Iwai
2009-08-05  7:30       ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-05  9:01         ` [PATCH 1/2 UPDATED] " Tejun Heo
2009-08-05 16:16 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Greg KH
2009-08-05 16:30   ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-05 16:49     ` Greg KH
2009-08-05 17:01       ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-05 17:15         ` Greg KH
2009-08-06  5:52           ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-06  8:13             ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-06 19:58               ` Greg KH
2009-08-07  2:34                 ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-07  4:05                   ` Greg KH

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