From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Colin Guthrie <cguthrie@mandriva.org>, Tejun Heo <teheo@suse.de>,
Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] sound: make OSS device number claiming optional
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 12:45:14 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5hzlaemtdx.wl%tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090805112649.4a59ce70@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
At Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:26:49 +0100,
Alan Cox wrote:
>
> > As far as I understand, the current problem is that ALSA core becomes
> > dependent when you build with CONFIG_SND_*_OSS config, even if you
> > load no snd-*-oss modules and use only ALSA-native ones. It's because
> > the OSS device registration is done through the ALSA snd module.
> > Thus, loading ALSA modules always results in loading soundcore
> > module, too.
>
> That isn't a bug, but a feature.
Not really :) The soundcore is only for OSS device files. As long as
you use only ALSA-native APIs, you don't need it. But, currently it's
loaded and initialized just because of the module dependency. This is
no bug but also not an intended feature.
> > So... instead of hacking around soundcore stuff, splitting off the OSS
> > (soundcore) dependency from ALSA snd module could be another solution?
> > Then soundcore doesn't have to be loaded unless you load snd-*-oss or
> > any real OSS modules.
>
> This makes it worse.
Well, the only regression would be the case where you create static
/dev/dsp (or else) devices and let auto-loading through sound-slot-*
or sound-service-*-* aliases. Of course, this still works if you
load soundcore in some way.
What I suggested in the above is to cut off an unneeded dependency
between soundcore and ALSA-native stuff instead of hacking soundcore.
It won't change anything else, so everything else can coexist as
before.
Just my $0.02, though...
Takashi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-08-05 10:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-05 6:35 [PATCH 1/2] chrdev: implement __[un]register_chrdev() Tejun Heo
2009-08-05 6:40 ` [PATCH 2/2] sound: make OSS device number claiming optional Tejun Heo
2009-08-05 9:15 ` Alan Cox
2009-08-05 9:24 ` Colin Guthrie
2009-08-05 9:59 ` Alan Cox
2009-08-05 10:14 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-08-05 10:26 ` Alan Cox
2009-08-05 10:45 ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2009-08-05 11:15 ` Alan Cox
2009-08-05 11:34 ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-05 12:35 ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-05 13:11 ` Alan Cox
2009-08-05 14:16 ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-05 9:32 ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-05 10:00 ` Alan Cox
2009-08-05 11:27 ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-05 12:48 ` Alan Cox
2009-08-05 14:13 ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-05 14:29 ` Alan Cox
2009-08-05 16:02 ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-05 16:33 ` Alan Cox
2009-08-05 16:38 ` Alan Cox
2009-08-05 16:52 ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-05 17:01 ` Alan Cox
2009-08-06 5:55 ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-05 7:04 ` [PATCH 1/2] chrdev: implement __[un]register_chrdev() Takashi Iwai
2009-08-05 7:11 ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-05 7:20 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-08-05 7:30 ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-05 9:01 ` [PATCH 1/2 UPDATED] " Tejun Heo
2009-08-05 16:16 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Greg KH
2009-08-05 16:30 ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-05 16:49 ` Greg KH
2009-08-05 17:01 ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-05 17:15 ` Greg KH
2009-08-06 5:52 ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-06 8:13 ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-06 19:58 ` Greg KH
2009-08-07 2:34 ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-07 4:05 ` Greg KH
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