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From: 陈华才 <chenhc@lemote.com>
To: "Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "Paul Burton" <paul.burton@mips.com>,
	"Ralf Baechle" <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
	"James Hogan" <james.hogan@mips.com>,
	linux-mips <linux-mips@linux-mips.org>,
	"Fuxin Zhang" <zhangfx@lemote.com>,
	wuzhangjin <wuzhangjin@gmail.com>,
	"Huacai Chen" <chenhuacai@gmail.com>,
	stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Alan Stern" <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	AndreaParri <andrea.parri@amarulasolutions.com>,
	"Will Deacon" <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Nicholas Piggin" <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	"David Howells" <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	"Jade Alglave" <j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk>,
	"Luc Maranget" <luc.maranget@inria.fr>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Akira Yokosawa" <akiyks@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] MIPS: implement smp_cond_load_acquire() for Loongson-3
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 11:31:55 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <tencent_2BF857EC332473814C12A753@qq.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180619072242.GC2494@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

Hi, Peter and Paul,

Loongson-3's Store Fill Buffer is nearly the same as your "Store Buffer", and it increases the memory ordering weakness. So, smp_cond_load_acquire() only need a __smp_mb() before the loop, not after every READ_ONCE(). In other word, the following code is just OK:

#define smp_cond_load_acquire(ptr, cond_expr)                   \
({                                                              \
        typeof(ptr) __PTR = (ptr);                              \
        typeof(*ptr) VAL;                                       \
        __smp_mb();                                     \
        for (;;) {                                              \
                VAL = READ_ONCE(*__PTR);                        \
                if (cond_expr)                                  \
                        break;                                  \
                cpu_relax();                                    \
        }                                                       \
        __smp_mb();                                     \
        VAL;                                                    \
})

the __smp_mb() before loop is used to avoid "reads prioritised over writes", which is caused by SFB's weak ordering and similar to ARM11MPCore (mentioned by Will Deacon).

Huacai

------------------ Original ------------------
From:  "Peter Zijlstra"<peterz@infradead.org>;
Date:  Tue, Jun 19, 2018 03:22 PM
To:  "陈华才"<chenhc@lemote.com>;
Cc:  "Paul Burton"<paul.burton@mips.com>; "Ralf Baechle"<ralf@linux-mips.org>; "James Hogan"<james.hogan@mips.com>; "linux-mips"<linux-mips@linux-mips.org>; "Fuxin Zhang"<zhangfx@lemote.com>; "wuzhangjin"<wuzhangjin@gmail.com>; "Huacai Chen"<chenhuacai@gmail.com>; "stable"<stable@vger.kernel.org>; "Alan Stern"<stern@rowland.harvard.edu>; "AndreaParri"<andrea.parri@amarulasolutions.com>; "Will Deacon"<will.deacon@arm.com>; "Boqun Feng"<boqun.feng@gmail.com>; "Nicholas Piggin"<npiggin@gmail.com>; "David Howells"<dhowells@redhat.com>; "Jade Alglave"<j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk>; "Luc Maranget"<luc.maranget@inria.fr>; "Paul E. McKenney"<paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>; "Akira Yokosawa"<akiyks@gmail.com>; "linux-kernel"<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>;
Subject:  Re: [PATCH] MIPS: implement smp_cond_load_acquire() for Loongson-3
 
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 02:40:14PM +0800, 陈华才 wrote:
> Hi, Paul,
> 
> First of all, could you please check why linux-mips reject e-mails
> from lemote.com? Of course I can send e-mails by gmail, but my gmail
> can't receive e-mails from linux-mips since March, 2018.

Could you please learn to use email? No top posting and wrap lines at 78
chars.

> I have already read Documentation/memory-barriers.txt, but I don't
> think we should define a smp_read_barrier_depends() for Loongson-3.
> Because Loongson-3's behavior isn't like Alpha, and in syntax, this is
> not a data-dependent issue.

Agreed, this is not a data-dependency issue.

> There is no document about Loongson-3's SFB. In my opinion, SFB looks
> like the L0 cache but sometimes it is out of cache-coherent machanism
> (L1 cache's cross-core coherency is maintained by hardware, but not
> always true for SFB). smp_mb() is needed for smp_cond_load_acquire(),
> but not every READ_ONCE().

Linux does _NOT_ support non-coherent SMP. If your system is not fully
coherent, you're out of luck.

But please, explain in excruciating detail what exactly you need that
smp_mb for. If, like I posited in my previous email, it is to ensure
remote store buffer flushes, then your machine is terminally broken.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-20  3:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1529042858-9483-1-git-send-email-chenhc@lemote.com>
2018-06-18 18:51 ` Paul Burton
2018-06-19  6:40   ` 陈华才
2018-06-19  7:22     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-20  3:31       ` 陈华才 [this message]
2018-06-20  8:17         ` Will Deacon
2018-06-20  9:22           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-19  7:17   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-19  8:52     ` Will Deacon

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