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From: Yuwen Chen <ywen.chen@foxmail.com>
To: licayy@foxmail.com
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] selftests/futex: fix the issue of abnormal test results caused by thread timing
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2025 15:50:33 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <tencent_38F3843C852F8CAECF22386E81F151D7A207@qq.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <tencent_735CA2D4910E781E7F514A7DED34A5CE2E0A@qq.com>

on Fri, 12 Dec 2025 12:30:20 +0800, Licay wrote:
> 1. Avoid Parsing /proc
>    The current approach uses get_thread_state() to read /proc/$pid/status, which isn't very reliable.
>    A better way would be to have waiterfn directly signal when it's ready using atomic operations.

I haven't found a better way to check whether a process has entered the
sleep state without using the proc interface for the time being. The kernel
probably doesn't provide a system call to obtain whether a process has
entered the sleep state.

> 2. Use Atomic Counting Instead of Polling Thread State
>    Before entering futex_wait, waiterfn can atomically increment a counter. The parent thread then just waits for this counter to reach the expected value.
>    This is much simpler and avoids the overhead of checking /proc repeatedly.

Using atomic instructions does not guarantee that the process is waiting in futex_wait.

> 3. Use Standard Atomic Types
>    Replace the custom READ_ONCE/WRITE_ONCE macros with standard <stdatomic.h> types like atomic_int.
>    It's cleaner and more portable across different platforms.

Only two operations, atomic_set and atomic_read, are used here. Using
WRITE_ONCE and READ_ONCE can avoid introducing too many dependencies.

> Here's the basic idea:
> - Add a global atomic_int ready_count variable
> - In waiterfn: atomic_fetch_add(&ready_count, 1) right before futex_wait()
> - Parent thread: spin-wait until atomic_load(&ready_count) reaches the expected value

Similarly, using atomic_inc before futex_wait does not guarantee that
the thread has reached the futex_wait execution point.

Thank you very much for your reply.


      reply	other threads:[~2025-12-15  7:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-11  8:36 [PATCH 0/3] " Yuwen Chen
2025-12-11  8:38 ` [PATCH 1/3] selftests/futex: reduce array declarations in the requeue_single Yuwen Chen
2025-12-11  8:38 ` [PATCH 2/3] selftests/futex: use pthread_join to reclaim thread resources Yuwen Chen
2025-12-11  8:38 ` [PATCH 3/3] selftests/futex: fix the issue of abnormal test results caused by thread timing Yuwen Chen
2025-12-12  4:30 ` Licay
2025-12-15  7:50   ` Yuwen Chen [this message]

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