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From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, axboe@kernel.dk, nauman@google.com,
	dpshah@google.com, guijianfeng@cn.fujitsu.com,
	czoccolo@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] cfq-iosched: Improve time slice charging logic
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:47:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x49mxtntikn.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1279560008-2905-2-git-send-email-vgoyal@redhat.com> (Vivek Goyal's message of "Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:20:06 -0400")

Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com> writes:

> - Currently in CFQ there are many situations where don't know how
>   much time slice has been consumed by a queue. For example, all
>   the random reader/writer queues where we don't idle on
>   individual queues and we expire the queue either immediately
>   after the request dispatch.
>
> - In this case time consumed by a queue is just a memory copy
>   operation. Actually time measurement is possible only if we
>   idle on a queue and allow dispatch from a queue for significant
>   amount of time.
>
> - As of today, in such cases we calculate the time since the
>   dispatch from the queue started and charge all that time.
>   Generally this rounds to 1 jiffy but in some cases it can
>   be more. For example, if we are driving high request queue
>   depth and driver is too busy and does not ask for new
>   requests for 8-10 jiffies. In such cases, the active queue
>   gets charged very unfairly.
>
> - So fundamentally, whole notion of charging for time slice
>   is valid only if we have been idling on the queue. Otherwise
>   in an NCQ queue, there might be other requests on the queue
>   and we can not do the time slice calculation.
>
> - This patch tweaks the slice charging logic a bit so that
>   in the cases where we can't know the amount of time, we
>   start charging in terms of number of requests dispatched
>   (IOPS). This practically switching CFQ fairness model to
>   fairness in terms of IOPS with slice_idle=0.
>
> - As of today this will primarily be useful only with
>   group_idle patches so that we get fairness in terms of
>   IOPS across groups. The idea is that on fast storage
>   one can run CFQ with slice_idle=0 and still get IO
>   controller working without losing too much of
>   throughput.

I'm not fluent in the cgroup code, my apologies for that.  However, just
trying to make sense of this is giving me a headache.  Now, in some
cases you are using IOPS *in place of* jiffies.  How are we to know
which is which and in what cases?

It sounds like this is addressing an important problem, but I'm having a
hard time picking out what that problem is.  Is this problem noticable
for competing sync-noidle workloads (competing between groups, that is)?
If not, then what?

Thanks,
Jeff

> Signed-off-by: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
> ---
>  block/cfq-iosched.c |   24 +++++++++++++++++++++---
>  1 files changed, 21 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/block/cfq-iosched.c b/block/cfq-iosched.c
> index 7982b83..f44064c 100644
> --- a/block/cfq-iosched.c
> +++ b/block/cfq-iosched.c
> @@ -896,16 +896,34 @@ static inline unsigned int cfq_cfqq_slice_usage(struct cfq_queue *cfqq)
>  		 * if there are mutiple queues in the group, each can dispatch
>  		 * a single request on seeky media and cause lots of seek time
>  		 * and group will never know it.
> +		 *
> +		 * If drive is NCQ and we are driving deep queue depths, then
> +		 * it is not reasonable to charge the slice since dispatch
> +		 * started because this time will include time taken by all
> +		 * the other requests in the queue.
> +		 *
> +		 * Actually there is no reasonable way to know the disk time
> +		 * here and we need to come up with some approximation. If
> +		 * disk is non NCQ, we should be driving request queue depth
> +		 * 1, then charge for time since dispatch start and this will
> +		 * account for seek time properly on seeky media. If request
> +		 * queue depth is high, then charge for number of requests
> +		 * dispatched from the queue. This will sort of becoming
> +		 * charging in terms of IOPS.
>  		 */
> -		slice_used = max_t(unsigned, (jiffies - cfqq->dispatch_start),
> -					1);
> +		if (cfqq->cfqd->hw_tag == 0)
> +			slice_used = max_t(unsigned,
> +					(jiffies - cfqq->dispatch_start), 1);
> +		else
> +			slice_used = cfqq->slice_dispatch;
>  	} else {
>  		slice_used = jiffies - cfqq->slice_start;
>  		if (slice_used > cfqq->allocated_slice)
>  			slice_used = cfqq->allocated_slice;
>  	}
>  
> -	cfq_log_cfqq(cfqq->cfqd, cfqq, "sl_used=%u", slice_used);
> +	cfq_log_cfqq(cfqq->cfqd, cfqq, "sl_used=%u, sl_disp=%u", slice_used,
> +			cfqq->slice_dispatch);
>  	return slice_used;
>  }

  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-19 18:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-19 17:20 [RFC PATCH] cfq-iosched: Implement group idle V2 Vivek Goyal
2010-07-19 17:20 ` [PATCH 1/3] cfq-iosched: Improve time slice charging logic Vivek Goyal
2010-07-19 18:47   ` Jeff Moyer [this message]
2010-07-19 18:58     ` Vivek Goyal
2010-07-19 20:32       ` Divyesh Shah
2010-07-19 20:44         ` Vivek Goyal
2010-07-19 21:19           ` Corrado Zoccolo
2010-07-19 22:05             ` Vivek Goyal
2010-07-19 17:20 ` [PATCH 2/3] cfq-iosched: Implement a new tunable group_idle Vivek Goyal
2010-07-19 18:58   ` Jeff Moyer
2010-07-19 20:20     ` Vivek Goyal
2010-07-19 17:20 ` [PATCH 3/3] cfq-iosched: Print per slice sectors dispatched in blktrace Vivek Goyal
2010-07-19 18:59   ` Jeff Moyer
2010-07-19 22:16   ` Divyesh Shah
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-07-19 17:14 [RFC PATCH] cfq-iosched: Implement group idle V2 Vivek Goyal
2010-07-19 17:14 ` [PATCH 1/3] cfq-iosched: Improve time slice charging logic Vivek Goyal

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