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From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jens.axboe@oracle.com,
	nauman@google.com, dpshah@google.com, lizf@cn.fujitsu.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/20] blkio: Introduce the notion of weights
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:15:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x49skcurti4.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091104154135.GA2870@redhat.com> (Vivek Goyal's message of "Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:41:35 -0500")

Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com> writes:

> On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 10:06:16AM -0500, Jeff Moyer wrote:
>> Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com> writes:
>> 
>> > o Introduce the notion of weights. Priorities are mapped to weights internally.
>> >   These weights will be useful once IO groups are introduced and group's share
>> >   will be decided by the group weight.
>> 
>> I'm sorry, but I need more background to review this patch.  Where do
>> the min and max come from?  Why do you scale 7-0 from 200-900?  How does
>> this map to what was there before (exactly, approximately)?
>> 
>
> Well, So far we only have the notion of iopriority for the process and
> based on that we determine time slice length.
>
> Soon we will throw cfq groups also in the mix. Because cpu IO controller
> is weight driven, people have shown preference that group's share should
> be decided based on its weight and not introduce the notion of ioprio for
> groups.

I certainly agree with that.

> Hence, to begin with I wanted to limit the range of weights allowed because
> wider range opens up lot of interesting corner cases. That's why limited
> minimum weight to 100. So at max user can expect the 1000/100=10 times service
> differentiation between highest and lower weight groups. If folks need more
> than that, we can look into it once things stablize.
>
> Priority and weights follow reverse order. Higher priority means low
> weight and vice-versa.
>
> Currently we support 8 priority levels and prio "4" is the middle point.
> Anything higher than prio 4 gets 20% less slice as compared to prio 4 and
> priorities lower than 4, get 20% higher slice of prio 4 (20% higher/lower
> for each priority level).
>
> For weight range 100 - 1000, 500 can be considered as mid point. Now this
> is how priority mapping looks like.
>
> 	100 200 300 400 500 600 700 800 900 1000  (Weights) 
> 	     7   6   5   4   3   2  1   0         (io prio).
>
> Once priorities are converted to weights, we are able to retain the notion
> of 20% difference between prio levels by choosing 500 as the mid point and
> mapping prio 0-7 to weights 900-200, hence this mapping. 

I see.  So when using the old ioprio mechanism, we get a smaller range
of possible values than with the cgroup configuration.

> I am all ears if you have any suggestions on how this ca be handled
> better.

I think that's a fine way to handle it.  I just needed to be spoon-fed.
It would be nice if you included a write-up of how service is
differentiated in your documentation patch.  In other words, from the
point of view of the sysadmin, how does he use the thing?  Simple math
would likely help, too.

Cheers,
Jeff

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-11-04 19:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-03 23:43 [RFC] Block IO Controller V1 Vivek Goyal
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 01/20] blkio: Documentation Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 13:37   ` Jeff Moyer
2009-11-04 17:21   ` Balbir Singh
2009-11-04 17:52     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 23:36       ` Balbir Singh
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 02/20] blkio: Change CFQ to use CFS like queue time stamps Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 14:30   ` Jeff Moyer
2009-11-04 16:37     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 17:59       ` Corrado Zoccolo
2009-11-04 18:54         ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-05  2:44       ` Divyesh Shah
2009-11-05 14:39         ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 21:18   ` Corrado Zoccolo
2009-11-04 22:25     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-05  8:36       ` Corrado Zoccolo
2009-11-04 23:22     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-05  8:27       ` Corrado Zoccolo
2009-11-05  0:05     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-06 22:22     ` [RFC] Workload type Vs Groups (Was: Re: [PATCH 02/20] blkio: Change CFQ to use CFS like queue time stamps) Vivek Goyal
2009-11-09 17:33       ` Nauman Rafique
2009-11-09 21:47       ` Corrado Zoccolo
2009-11-09 23:12         ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-10 11:29           ` Corrado Zoccolo
2009-11-10 13:31             ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-10 14:12               ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-10 18:05                 ` Corrado Zoccolo
2009-11-10 19:15                   ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-12  8:53                     ` Corrado Zoccolo
2009-11-11  0:48   ` [PATCH 02/20] blkio: Change CFQ to use CFS like queue time stamps Gui Jianfeng
2009-11-12 23:07     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-13  0:59       ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-11-13  1:24         ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-13  2:05           ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 03/20] blkio: Introduce the notion of weights Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 15:06   ` Jeff Moyer
2009-11-04 15:41     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 17:07       ` Divyesh Shah
2009-11-04 19:00         ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 19:15       ` Jeff Moyer [this message]
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 04/20] blkio: Introduce the notion of cfq entity Vivek Goyal
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 05/20] blkio: Introduce the notion of cfq groups Vivek Goyal
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 06/20] blkio: Introduce cgroup interface Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 15:23   ` Jeff Moyer
2009-11-04 16:47     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 07/20] blkio: Provide capablity to enqueue/dequeue group entities Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 15:34   ` Jeff Moyer
2009-11-04 16:54     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 08/20] blkio: Add support for dynamic creation of cfq_groups Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 16:01   ` Jeff Moyer
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 09/20] blkio: Porpogate blkio cgroup weight or ioprio class updation to cfq groups Vivek Goyal
2009-11-05  5:35   ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-11-05 14:42     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 10/20] blkio: Implement cfq group deletion and reference counting support Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 18:44   ` Jeff Moyer
2009-11-04 19:00     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 11/20] blkio: Some CFQ debugging Aid Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 18:52   ` Jeff Moyer
2009-11-04 19:12     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 19:25       ` Jeff Moyer
2009-11-05  3:10   ` Divyesh Shah
2009-11-05 14:42     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-06  0:56       ` Divyesh Shah
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 12/20] blkio: Export disk time and sectors dispatched from cgroup interface Vivek Goyal
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 13/20] blkio: Add a group dequeue interface in cgroup for debugging Vivek Goyal
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 14/20] blkio: Do not allow request merging across cfq groups Vivek Goyal
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 15/20] blkio: Take care of preemptions across groups Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 19:00   ` Jeff Moyer
2009-11-04 19:27     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 19:30       ` Jeff Moyer
2009-11-06  7:55   ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-11-06 22:10     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-09  7:41       ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 16/20] blkio: do not select co-operating queues from different cfq groups Vivek Goyal
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 17/20] blkio: Wait for queue to get backlogged before it expires Vivek Goyal
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 18/20] blkio: arm idle timer even if think time is great then time slice left Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 19:04   ` Jeff Moyer
2009-11-04 19:17     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 19/20] blkio: Arm slice timer even if there are requests in driver Vivek Goyal
2009-11-03 23:43 ` [PATCH 20/20] blkio: Drop the reference to queue once the task changes cgroup Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 19:09   ` Jeff Moyer
2009-11-04 19:18     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04  7:43 ` [RFC] Block IO Controller V1 Jens Axboe
2009-11-04 13:39   ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 19:12 ` Jeff Moyer
2009-11-04 19:19   ` Vivek Goyal
2009-11-04 19:27     ` Jeff Moyer
2009-11-04 19:38       ` Vivek Goyal

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