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From: Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>
To: Shijie Huang <shijie@amperemail.onmicrosoft.com>,
	Huang Shijie <shijie@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	mingo@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org
Cc: patches@amperecomputing.com, cl@linux.com,
	Shubhang@os.amperecomputing.com, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: do not scan twice in detach_tasks()
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2025 17:08:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xhsmhldoo18dn.mognet@vschneid-thinkpadt14sgen2i.remote.csb> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d4ed8553-6a57-4b56-bc6e-ecadd2d9d75e@amperemail.onmicrosoft.com>

On 16/07/25 10:13, Shijie Huang wrote:
> On 2025/7/16 1:04, Valentin Schneider wrote:
>> On 07/07/25 16:36, Huang Shijie wrote:
>>> When detach_tasks() scans the src_cpu's task list, the task list
>>> may shrink during the scanning. For example, the task list
>>> may have four tasks at the beginning, it may becomes to two
>>> during the scanning in detach_tasks():
>>>      Task list at beginning : "ABCD"
>>>      Task list in scanning  : "CD"
>>>
>>>      (ABCD stands for differnt tasks.)
>>>
>>> In this scenario, the env->loop_max is still four, so
>>> detach_tasks() may scan twice for some tasks:
>>>      the scanning order maybe : "DCDC"
>>>
>>
>> Huh, a quick hacky test suggests this isn't /too/ hard to trigger; I get
>> about one occurrence every two default hackbench run (~200ms) on my dummy
>> QEMU setup.
>>
>> Have you seen this happen on your workloads or did you find this while
>> staring at the code?
>
> I found this issue in my Specjbb2015 test.  It is very easy to trigger.
>

That would be good to include in the changelog.

> I noticed many times in the test.
>
> I even found that:
>
>          At the beginning: env->loop_max is 12.
>
>         When the detach_tasks() scans: the real task list shrink to 5.
>

That's set using rq->nr_running which includes more than just the CFS
tasks, and looking at the git history it looks like it's almost always been
the case.

Looks like env->loop_max really is only used for detach_tasks(), so perhaps
a "better" fix would be something like the below, so that we can't iterate
more than length(env->src_rq->cfs_tasks). That is, assuming

  rq->cfs.h_nr_queued == length(rq->cfs_tasks)

---
diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
index b9b4bbbf0af6f..32ae24aa377ca 100644
--- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
+++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
@@ -11687,7 +11687,7 @@ static int sched_balance_rq(int this_cpu, struct rq *this_rq,
 		 * still unbalanced. ld_moved simply stays zero, so it is
 		 * correctly treated as an imbalance.
 		 */
-		env.loop_max  = min(sysctl_sched_nr_migrate, busiest->nr_running);
+		env.loop_max  = min(sysctl_sched_nr_migrate, busiest->cfs.h_nr_queued);
 
 more_balance:
 		rq_lock_irqsave(busiest, &rf);


  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-16 15:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-07  8:36 Huang Shijie
2025-07-15 17:04 ` Valentin Schneider
2025-07-16  2:13   ` Shijie Huang
2025-07-16 15:08     ` Valentin Schneider [this message]
2025-07-17  2:56       ` Shijie Huang
2025-07-17  9:49         ` Valentin Schneider

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