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From: Clay Haapala <chaapala@cisco.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>
Cc: "Salyzyn, Mark" <mark_salyzyn@adaptec.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>, Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: PATCH: Further aacraid work
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 11:32:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yqujzn72uov6.fsf@chaapala-lnx2.cisco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1087484107.2090.42.camel@mulgrave> (James Bottomley's message of "17 Jun 2004 09:55:03 -0500")

On 17 Jun 2004, James Bottomley spake thusly:
> On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 09:39, Salyzyn, Mark wrote:
>> This would not be such an issue if Linux provided large SG elements
>> rather than the fubar descending page order ones they issue today. If
>> this could be fixed, I'd not even be interested in the optimization of
>> the SG.
> 
> This is hardly a big problem, is it?  it only occurs during the first
> few moments of system operation.  After that, the pages assigned to a
> virtual region are pretty much random.
> 
> Fundamentally, sg lists have to operate at the level of the MMU, so
> we're stuck with the page size, which is 4k on x86.  There's nothing we
> can do in SCSI about this.
> 
> Of course, if you're on a platform with an IOMMU then this problem
> simply doesn't exist and we can coalesce nicely.
> 
> James

Just to see if my understanding is on track ...

Today's scatterlists already handle entries with a size greater than
MMU pagelength, even on x86, right?  We have seen it in iSCSI driver
testing, though it is not the usual case.  crypto/digests.c:update()
function was recently patched to handle the case and properly kmap()
the additional memory represented by the sg entry.

So, on regular x86 this is a matter of convenience/timing, and the
page assignments will tend toward, but not always be, random 1-page
entries as the system is used.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-06-17 16:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-17 14:39 Salyzyn, Mark
2004-06-17 14:55 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-17 14:58   ` Alan Cox
2004-06-17 15:15     ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-06-17 19:16       ` James Bottomley
2004-06-17 16:32   ` Clay Haapala [this message]
2004-06-17 16:37     ` James Bottomley
2004-06-17 16:46     ` Alan Cox
2004-06-17 15:11 ` Anton Blanchard
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-06-29 20:55 Salyzyn, Mark
2004-06-29 23:22 ` Byron Stanoszek
2004-06-30 19:52 ` Byron Stanoszek
2004-06-30 19:59   ` Dario
2004-06-29 19:27 Salyzyn, Mark
2004-06-29 20:20 ` Byron Stanoszek
2004-06-29 20:42 ` Alan Cox
2004-06-29 18:53 Salyzyn, Mark
2004-06-29 19:03 ` Byron Stanoszek
2004-06-28 13:17 Salyzyn, Mark
2004-06-18 20:53 Salyzyn, Mark
     [not found] <286GI-5y3-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <286Qp-5EU-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-06-17 19:10   ` Andi Kleen
2004-06-17 20:54     ` Alan Cox
2004-06-17 21:13       ` James Bottomley
2004-06-17 21:25       ` Andi Kleen
2004-06-18 15:19         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-06-18  5:57       ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-18 14:07         ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 15:17     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-06-17 17:54 Salyzyn, Mark
2004-06-17 20:38 ` Alan Cox
2004-06-17 20:48   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-17 20:56     ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 15:05     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-18 20:32       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-27 17:33         ` James Bottomley
2004-06-17 12:53 Salyzyn, Mark
2004-06-17 13:07 ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-06-17 13:19   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-17 13:55   ` James Bottomley
2004-06-17 13:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-17 14:02 ` Alan Cox
2004-06-16 21:04 Alan Cox
2004-06-16 21:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-16 21:40   ` Alan Cox
2004-06-16 21:42     ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-16 21:48       ` Alan Cox
2004-06-16 21:58         ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-16 22:06           ` Alan Cox
2004-06-29 17:48 ` Byron Stanoszek
2004-06-29 18:27   ` Mark Haverkamp
2004-06-29 18:37   ` Alan Cox
2004-06-30  2:02 ` bm
2004-06-30 16:07   ` Alan Cox

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