From: "Måns Rullgård" <mans@mansr.com>
To: Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.cz>
Cc: "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@kernel.org>, "Borislav Petkov" <bp@suse.de>,
"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Markus Trippelsdorf" <markus@trippelsdorf.de>,
"Thomas Voegtle" <tv@lio96.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86-ml <x86@kernel.org>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Jiri Olsa" <jolsa@redhat.com>,
"Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo" <acme@infradead.org>,
"Frédéric Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] CONFIG_FORCE_MINIMALLY_SANE_CONFIG=y
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 12:57:56 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <yw1x37ttsp4b.fsf@unicorn.mansr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <569E2F5C.2040904@suse.cz> (Michal Marek's message of "Tue, 19 Jan 2016 13:43:08 +0100")
Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.cz> writes:
> Dne 19.1.2016 v 13:29 Måns Rullgård napsal(a):
>> Force-enabling BLK_DEV_INITRD isn't going to make anyone change their
>> boot scripts.
>
> If you are on a regular distro, /sbin/installkernel should do the right
> thing: Run mkinitrd / dracut and if the tools are recent enough and
> there is a microcode update for your CPU, a cpio with the microcode blob
> will be prepended to the initrd. So this is more or less covered.
I'd be rather cross if something suddenly started building initrds on my
systems. To me they're just a useless level of complexity to maintain.
(I'm not denying they can be useful to others.)
>> I'd also like to get a coherent answer to why microcode update is
>> preferably done from an initrd as opposed to shortly after mounting
>> a regular disk. My systems seem perfectly happy doing the latter.
>
> It's not even done *from* the initrd but way earlier. We learned the
> hard way when Intel released a microcode update for Haswell which
> disabled TSX: Userspace did not expect the feature flags to change and
> previously valid instructions to start trapping. This can in principle
> happen again and with any vendor.
OK, I can see how that might be a problem.
--
Måns Rullgård
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-01-19 12:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-19 21:43 x86/microcode update on systems without INITRD Markus Trippelsdorf
2015-11-19 21:55 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-11-19 22:58 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-11-20 7:19 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2015-11-20 8:27 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-11-20 8:33 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2015-11-20 8:48 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-11-20 11:24 ` [PATCH] x86/microcode: Initialize the driver late when facilities are up Borislav Petkov
2015-11-23 16:28 ` [tip:x86/urgent] " tip-bot for Borislav Petkov
2016-01-07 12:12 ` x86/microcode update on systems without INITRD Thomas Voegtle
2016-01-07 12:18 ` Borislav Petkov
2016-01-07 12:36 ` Thomas Voegtle
2016-01-07 12:41 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2016-01-08 9:33 ` Thomas Voegtle
2016-01-08 12:18 ` Mike Keehan
2016-01-08 12:20 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2016-01-08 10:59 ` Borislav Petkov
2016-01-08 11:18 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-01-08 11:36 ` Borislav Petkov
2016-01-08 11:46 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-01-08 12:08 ` Borislav Petkov
2016-01-08 12:16 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2016-01-08 12:27 ` Borislav Petkov
2016-01-08 12:28 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-01-08 12:48 ` Michal Marek
2016-01-08 13:37 ` Borislav Petkov
2016-01-08 14:48 ` Michal Marek
2016-01-11 19:43 ` Borislav Petkov
2016-01-11 20:29 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-01-11 20:59 ` Borislav Petkov
2016-01-11 21:04 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-01-11 21:17 ` Borislav Petkov
2016-01-14 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH] x86/kconfig: Sanity-check config file during oldconfig Borislav Petkov
2016-01-18 13:36 ` Thomas Voegtle
2016-01-18 14:06 ` Borislav Petkov
2016-01-18 14:11 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-01-18 14:28 ` Borislav Petkov
2016-01-18 14:41 ` Borislav Petkov
2016-01-18 14:51 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-01-18 15:39 ` Borislav Petkov
2016-01-18 15:42 ` Måns Rullgård
2016-01-19 8:20 ` [RFC] CONFIG_FORCE_MINIMALLY_SANE_CONFIG=y (was: Re: [RFC PATCH] x86/kconfig: Sanity-check config file during oldconfig) Ingo Molnar
2016-01-19 8:40 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2016-01-19 8:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-01-19 9:45 ` Borislav Petkov
2016-01-19 9:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-19 9:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-01-19 9:43 ` Borislav Petkov
2016-01-19 9:57 ` [RFC] CONFIG_FORCE_MINIMALLY_SANE_CONFIG=y Michal Marek
2016-01-19 10:30 ` [RFC] CONFIG_GENERIC_BOOTABLE_CONFIG=y Ingo Molnar
2016-01-19 17:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-01-19 17:52 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-01-19 12:29 ` [RFC] CONFIG_FORCE_MINIMALLY_SANE_CONFIG=y Måns Rullgård
2016-01-19 12:43 ` Michal Marek
2016-01-19 12:57 ` Måns Rullgård [this message]
2016-01-21 22:06 ` [RFC] CONFIG_FORCE_MINIMALLY_SANE_CONFIG=y (was: Re: [RFC PATCH] x86/kconfig: Sanity-check config file during oldconfig) Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-03-09 13:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-01-08 12:18 ` x86/microcode update on systems without INITRD Måns Rullgård
2016-01-19 17:43 ` Borislav Petkov
2016-01-20 9:14 ` Thomas Voegtle
2016-01-20 11:15 ` Borislav Petkov
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