From: "Måns Rullgård" <mru@inprovide.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: OT] Joerg Schilling flames Linux on his Blog
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 04:08:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <yw1x8y1tzf14.fsf@ford.inprovide.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <429DF038.3010503@nortel.com>
Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com> writes:
> Joerg Schilling wrote:
>
>> There is still no new and definitely stable interface that allows me to
>> asume that it makes sense to put effort in implementing support for it.
>
> Why not just accept *any* device node that the user passes in?
That's the question I think we're all asking. The answer is that
cdrecord *already* does this.
In my understanding there are three basic parts involved here: 1) SCSI
commands, and the devices that use them, 2) low-level
addressing/transport used by the OS to deliver SCSI commands to the
devices, and 3) high-level addressing used by userland when talking to
the OS. 2 can be more or less anything: traditional b/t/l SCSI,
ATAPI, parport, USB, etc, each with it's own unique addressing style.
3 is what applications should be using, and varies across OSes, Unix
systems using device nodes, others using other methods I do not know.
Through a thorough misunderstanding of the word "portable",
Mr. Schilling appears to be attempting to forcibly extend one
particular incarnation of 2 to also cover 3.
FWIW, I run cdrecord using dev=/dev/cdrw as a regular user, without
any suid bits, and close my eyes while the warnings scroll by. Using
a small window and the -v flag, they're out of sight before you know
it. I have yet to burn a coaster not resulting from bad media or
hardware, even on loaded systems, over NFS, or whatnot.
--
Måns Rullgård
mru@inprovide.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-06-02 2:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-05-30 9:19 Lincoln Dale (ltd)
2005-05-30 9:34 ` Toon van der Pas
2005-05-30 12:26 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-05-30 14:14 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-05-31 11:03 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-05-31 7:29 ` Terry Vernon
2005-05-31 11:46 ` Richard B. Johnson
2005-05-31 16:59 ` Gerd Knorr
2005-05-31 19:05 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-05-31 19:56 ` Gerd Knorr
2005-06-01 15:56 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-06-01 16:20 ` Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker
2005-06-01 16:55 ` Gerd Knorr
2005-06-01 2:23 ` Horst von Brand
2005-06-01 15:56 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-06-03 13:29 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-06-01 16:28 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-06-01 15:41 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-06-01 15:11 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-06-01 15:42 ` Jim Crilly
2005-06-01 16:55 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-06-01 17:29 ` Jim Crilly
2005-06-01 17:50 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-06-01 17:59 ` Jim Crilly
2005-06-02 1:14 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-06-02 1:46 ` Måns Rullgård
2005-06-02 1:23 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-06-03 19:51 ` Patrick McFarland
2005-06-01 22:06 ` Matthias Andree
2005-06-01 15:57 ` Patrick McFarland
2005-05-31 17:22 ` Jim Crilly
2005-05-31 19:28 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-05-31 20:54 ` Jim Crilly
2005-06-01 15:53 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-06-01 16:05 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-06-01 17:03 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-06-01 17:28 ` Chris Friesen
2005-06-02 2:08 ` Måns Rullgård [this message]
2005-06-01 17:35 ` Patrick McFarland
2005-06-02 10:34 ` Lukasz Stelmach
2005-06-01 16:21 ` Matthias Andree
2005-06-01 17:29 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-06-01 15:28 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-06-01 15:48 ` Jim Crilly
2005-05-30 13:38 ` Tomasz Torcz
2005-05-30 9:46 ` Joerg Schilling
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-05-30 22:00 Lincoln Dale (ltd)
2005-05-31 11:17 ` Joerg Schilling
[not found] <48cRq-7TH-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <48cRq-7TH-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <48cRq-7TH-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <48dDM-5I-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <48wdp-7lh-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-05-26 21:53 ` Bodo Eggert
2005-05-26 23:12 ` Lee Revell
[not found] <4847F-8q-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <E1Db3zm-0004vF-9j@be1.7eggert.dyndns.org>
2005-05-25 22:46 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-05-25 23:31 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-05-26 19:20 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-05-26 21:26 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-05-26 23:30 ` Matthias Andree
2005-05-27 9:39 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-05-27 11:09 ` Wakko Warner
2005-05-27 14:21 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-05-30 9:07 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-05-30 10:47 ` Markus Plail
2005-05-30 22:27 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-05-30 23:20 ` Måns Rullgård
2005-05-30 23:35 ` Brian O'Mahoney
2005-05-31 12:51 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-05-31 12:47 ` Joerg Schilling
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0505260205390.19389@be1.lrz>
2005-05-27 10:03 ` Joerg Schilling
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0505271633200.3055@be1.lrz>
2005-05-30 9:36 ` Joerg Schilling
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0505301326450.2363@be1.lrz>
2005-05-31 10:57 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-05-25 13:15 Joerg Schilling
2005-05-25 23:12 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-05-26 10:15 ` Joerg Schilling
2005-05-26 11:42 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-05-25 12:50 Joerg Schilling
2005-05-26 4:11 ` Patrick McFarland
2005-05-26 7:14 ` Markus Plail
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