From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261825AbVE3XZa (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 May 2005 19:25:30 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261830AbVE3XXX (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 May 2005 19:23:23 -0400 Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:14524 "EHLO ciao.gmane.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261829AbVE3XW0 (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 May 2005 19:22:26 -0400 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: =?iso-8859-1?q?M=E5ns_Rullg=E5rd?= Subject: Re: OT] Joerg Schilling flames Linux on his Blog Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 01:20:05 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4847F-8q-23@gated-at.bofh.it> <429AD7ED.nail4ZG1B42TI@burner> <200505301727.43926.dtor_core@ameritech.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.80-203-227.nextgentel.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.4 (Security Through Obscurity, linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:BoBzaojbSlL1Yb+uxadcchOGS34= Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Dmitry Torokhov writes: >> So let me sum up: Never rely on things that cannot be made 100% >> unique in case you like to run security relevent software like cdrecord. > > Are you talking about ,, numbering by any chance ;) ? > Because for the most types of devices out there they don't make any sense > and just provided for compatibility with legacy software. Like cdrecord. > Also, from a bit different perspective - do you also want users to mount > the CD they burnt using not device (/dev/xxx) but ,,? > If not why writing application should use different addressing? Let's start referring to files by device and inode number instead. It's so much easier than using pathnames. Maybe we can even force them into a bus,target,lun scheme. Then the device files and the corresponding scsi addresses will automatically collapse, and all problems will be solved. -- Måns Rullgård mru@inprovide.com