From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261565AbVFBBsl (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Jun 2005 21:48:41 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261564AbVFBBsl (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Jun 2005 21:48:41 -0400 Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:26277 "EHLO ciao.gmane.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261562AbVFBBsT (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Jun 2005 21:48:19 -0400 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: =?iso-8859-1?q?M=E5ns_Rullg=E5rd?= Subject: Re: OT] Joerg Schilling flames Linux on his Blog Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 03:46:10 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20050530093420.GB15347@hout.vanvergehaald.nl> <429B0683.nail5764GYTVC@burner> <46BE0C64-1246-4259-914B-379071712F01@mac.com> <429C4483.nail5X0215WJQ@burner> <87acmbxrfu.fsf@bytesex.org> <429DD036.nail7BF7MRZT6@burner> <20050601154245.GA14299@voodoo> <429DE874.nail7BFM1RBO2@burner> <20050601172900.GC14299@voodoo> <429DF581.nail7BFUL8PFN@burner> <20050601175920.GD14299@voodoo> <429E5D8B.7090402@tmr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.80-203-227.nextgentel.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.4 (Security Through Obscurity, linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:xDvbiqd6ohl17nSvOj3AyWgEBVY= Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Bill Davidsen writes: > Jim Crilly wrote: >> On 06/01/05 07:50:57PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: >> >>>"Jim Crilly" wrote: >>> >>> >>>>I don't use cdda2wav so I can't comment, but every other ripping tool that >>>>I've used on Linux has had no problem using the /dev/whatever interface, so >>>>once again it appears that your tool is the blacksheep for no good reason. >>> >>>You should use it as it is even used by people on Win32 because it is the >>>best DAE program for even badly readable sources. >> I'm not an audiophile, I can't tell the difference between a mp3 >> encoded at >> 128k and one encoded at 160k so I really doubt I could tell the difference >> between what cdda2wav and what most other DAE programs would produce. So >> given that the quality of the rips will be effectively equal to my ears, >> I'll use whatever's most convenient. > > The "quality" or fidelity isn't the issue here, but rather the rip > being deterministic and producing the same (as as often as possible, > correct) data. Joerg used the "paranoia" library to do the ripping > validation, and I'm unconvinced that there is anything better in that > regard. So any program that uses that library would produce equally good results, no? The paranoia library was written by monty@xiph.org, whos real name I can't find, but which I have reason to believe is not an alias for Mr. Schilling. -- Måns Rullgård mru@inprovide.com