From: "Måns Rullgård" <mans@mansr.com>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Christian Riesch <christian.riesch@omicron.at>,
Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] n_tty: Add memory barrier to fix race condition in receive path
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 22:54:13 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <yw1xfvdwj5yi.fsf@unicorn.mansr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141106223114.GA1701@kroah.com> (Greg Kroah-Hartman's message of "Thu, 6 Nov 2014 14:31:14 -0800")
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> writes:
> On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 10:12:54PM +0000, Måns Rullgård wrote:
>> Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> writes:
>>
>> > On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 09:38:59PM +0000, Måns Rullgård wrote:
>> >> Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> writes:
>> >>
>> >> > On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 09:01:36PM +0000, Måns Rullgård wrote:
>> >> >> Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> writes:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 08:49:01PM +0000, Måns Rullgård wrote:
>> >> >> >> Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> writes:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 12:39:59PM +0100, Christian Riesch wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> The current implementation of put_tty_queue() causes a race condition
>> >> >> >> >> when re-arranged by the compiler.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> On my build with gcc 4.8.3, cross-compiling for ARM, the line
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> *read_buf_addr(ldata, ldata->read_head++) = c;
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> was re-arranged by the compiler to something like
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> x = ldata->read_head
>> >> >> >> >> ldata->read_head++
>> >> >> >> >> *read_buf_addr(ldata, x) = c;
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> which causes a race condition. Invalid data is read if data is read
>> >> >> >> >> before it is actually written to the read buffer.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Really? A compiler can rearange things like that and expect things to
>> >> >> >> > actually work? How is that valid?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> This is actually required by the C spec. There is a sequence point
>> >> >> >> before a function call, after the arguments have been evaluated. Thus
>> >> >> >> all side-effects, such as the post-increment, must be complete before
>> >> >> >> the function is called, just like in the example.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> There is no "re-arranging" here. The code is simply wrong.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Ah, ok, time to dig out the C spec...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Anyway, because of this, no need for the wmb() calls, just rearrange the
>> >> >> > logic and all should be good, right? Christian, can you test that
>> >> >> > instead?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Weakly ordered SMP systems probably need some kind of barrier. I didn't
>> >> >> look at it carefully.
>> >> >
>> >> > It shouldn't need a barier, as it is a sequence point with the function
>> >> > call. Well, it's an inline function, but that "shouldn't" matter here,
>> >> > right?
>> >>
>> >> Sequence points say nothing about the order in which stores become
>> >> visible to other CPUs. That's why there are barrier instructions.
>> >
>> > Yes, but "order" matters.
>> >
>> > If I write code that does:
>> >
>> > 100 x = ldata->read_head;
>> > 101 &ldata->read_head[x & SOME_VALUE] = y;
>> > 102 ldata->read_head++;
>> >
>> > the compiler can not reorder lines 102 and 101 just because it feels
>> > like it, right? Or is it time to go spend some reading of the C spec
>> > again...
>>
>> The compiler can't. The hardware can. All the hardware promises is
>> that at some unspecified time in the future, both memory locations will
>> have the correct values. Another CPU might see 'read_head' updated
>> before it sees the corresponding data value. A wmb() between the writes
>> forces the CPU to complete preceding stores before it begins subsequent
>> ones.
>
> Yes, sorry, I'm not talking about other CPUs and what they see, I'm
> talking about the local one. I'm not assuming that this is SMP "safe"
> at all. If it is supposed to be, then yes, we do have problems, but
> there should be a lock _somewhere_ protecting this.
Within the confines of a single CPU + memory, barriers are never needed.
The moment another CPU or master-capable peripheral enters the mix,
proper ordering must be enforced somehow.
If the buffer is already protected by a lock of some kind, this will
provide the necessary barriers, so nothing further is necessary. If
it's a lock-less design, there will need to be barriers somewhere.
>From the patch context, I can't tell which category this case falls
into, and I'm far too lazy to read the entire file.
--
Måns Rullgård
mans@mansr.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-11-06 22:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-11-06 11:39 Christian Riesch
2014-11-06 20:38 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-11-06 20:49 ` Måns Rullgård
2014-11-06 20:56 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-11-06 21:01 ` Måns Rullgård
2014-11-06 21:17 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-11-06 21:38 ` Måns Rullgård
2014-11-06 22:02 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-11-06 22:12 ` Måns Rullgård
2014-11-06 22:31 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-11-06 22:54 ` Måns Rullgård [this message]
2014-11-07 6:50 ` Christian Riesch
2014-11-07 13:45 ` Peter Hurley
2014-12-30 19:02 ` Denis Du
2014-12-30 19:18 ` Peter Hurley
2014-11-06 21:40 ` Christian Riesch
2014-11-10 7:51 ` Christian Riesch
2014-11-10 9:25 ` Måns Rullgård
2014-11-10 9:38 ` Christian Riesch
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