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From: "Måns Rullgård" <mans@mansr.com>
To: Tomas Winkler <tomasw@gmail.com>
Cc: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>,
	"linux-kernel\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-sparse@vger.kernel.org,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Arrays of variable length
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2017 13:02:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yw1xk27ybo30.fsf@unicorn.mansr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+i0qc6+m61dz-Bj95355ZmpPqKW8-RrWFRswTaajx5_fEOg0A@mail.gmail.com> (Tomas Winkler's message of "Thu, 9 Mar 2017 09:54:54 +0200")

Tomas Winkler <tomasw@gmail.com> writes:

> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:31 AM, Måns Rullgård <mans@mansr.com> wrote:
>> Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br> writes:
>>
>>> On Sun, 05 Mar 2017, Måns Rullgård wrote:
>>>> Tomas Winkler <tomasw@gmail.com> writes:
>>>> > Sparse complains for arrays declared with variable length
>>>> >
>>>> > 'warning: Variable length array is used'
>>>> >
>>>> > Prior to c99 this was not allowed but lgcc (c99) doesn't have problem
>>>> > with that  https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Variable-Length.html.
>>>> > And also Linux kernel compilation with W=1 doesn't complain.
>>>> >
>>>> > Since sparse is used extensively would like to ask what is the correct
>>>> > usage of arrays of variable length
>>>> > within Linux Kernel.
>>>>
>>>> Variable-length arrays are a very bad idea.  Don't use them, ever.
>>>> If the size has a sane upper bound, just use that value statically.
>>>> Otherwise, you have a stack overflow waiting to happen and should be
>>>> using some kind of dynamic allocation instead.
>>>>
>>>> Furthermore, use of VLAs generally results in less efficient code.  For
>>>> instance, it forces gcc to waste a register for the frame pointer, and
>>>> it often prevents inlining.
>>>
>>> Well, if we're going to forbid VLAs in the kernel, IMHO the kernel build
>>> system should call gcc with -Werror=vla to get that point across early,
>>> and flush out any offenders.
>>
>> If it were up to me, that's exactly what I'd do.
>
>>
> Some parts of the kernel depends on VLA such as ___ON_STACK macros in
> include/crypto/hash.h
> It's actually pretty neat implementation, maybe it's too harsh to
> disable  VLA completely.

And what happens if the requested size is insane?

-- 
Måns Rullgård

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-09 13:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-05  9:44 Tomas Winkler
2017-03-05 10:01 ` Al Viro
2017-03-05 14:27 ` Måns Rullgård
2017-03-05 21:12   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2017-03-05 21:49     ` Richard Weinberger
2017-03-06  0:31     ` Måns Rullgård
2017-03-09  7:54       ` Tomas Winkler
2017-03-09 13:02         ` Måns Rullgård [this message]
2017-03-09 13:40           ` Tomas Winkler
2017-03-09 14:16             ` Måns Rullgård
2017-03-09 14:21               ` Tomas Winkler
2017-03-09 14:26                 ` Måns Rullgård
2017-03-09 14:29                   ` Tomas Winkler
2017-03-09 14:38                     ` Måns Rullgård

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