From: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
To: Benjamin Marzinski <bmarzins@redhat.com>,
John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>
Cc: hch@lst.de, kbusch@kernel.org, sagi@grimberg.me, axboe@fb.com,
martin.petersen@oracle.com,
james.bottomley@hansenpartnership.com, hare@suse.com,
jmeneghi@redhat.com, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, michael.christie@oracle.com,
snitzer@kernel.org, dm-devel@lists.linux.dev,
linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/24] scsi-multipath: introduce basic SCSI device support
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2026 09:01:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <003612c1-ff07-466c-93e8-d7766a9ec2db@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aaZ0Kf9n79QF4gbR@redhat.com>
On 3/3/26 06:39, Benjamin Marzinski wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 02, 2026 at 11:39:28AM +0000, John Garry wrote:
>> On 02/03/2026 02:22, Benjamin Marzinski wrote:
>>>> diff --git a/drivers/scsi/Kconfig b/drivers/scsi/Kconfig
>>>> index 19d0884479a24..cfab7ad1e3c2c 100644
>>>> --- a/drivers/scsi/Kconfig
>>>> +++ b/drivers/scsi/Kconfig
>>>> @@ -76,6 +76,16 @@ config SCSI_LIB_KUNIT_TEST
>>>> If unsure say N.
>>>> +config SCSI_MULTIPATH
>>>> + bool "SCSI multipath support"
>>> At least until this supports ALUA, it should probably be marked
>>> EXPERIMENTAL, just so people trying it out aren't surprised if it
>>> doesn't multipath their device in the way they expect.
>>
>> I think that ALUA support will be mainline acceptance criteria, and I am
>> looking to add it now.
>>
>> BTW, Hannes suggested to not use the DH ALUA support, so that means to
>> separate out the core ALUA support from the DH stuff. So you have any
>> opinion on that approach?
>
> I would (perhaps naively) have thought that the device handlers would be
> a useful abstraction for dealing with ALUA devices. But, Hannes knows
> this code much better than me. like I said before, I'm no scsi expert.
>
The main point of the device handlers was to inject a 'start' command
whenever paths needed to be switched (Like you need to do for some
active/passive arrays).
But that really caused quite some issues with complexity, as you easily
can get into array path ping-pong on path failure with no I/O being
transmitted.
So for this implementation I would stick with implicit ALUA
(most modern implementations have done so already anyway), and
then there's no need using the device handlers.
Cheers,
Hannes
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Dr. Hannes Reinecke Kernel Storage Architect
hare@suse.de +49 911 74053 688
SUSE Software Solutions GmbH, Frankenstr. 146, 90461 Nürnberg
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-03 8:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-25 15:36 [PATCH 00/24] Native SCSI multipath support John Garry
2026-02-25 15:36 ` [PATCH 01/24] scsi: core: add SCSI_MAX_QUEUE_DEPTH John Garry
2026-03-03 6:52 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-03-03 7:45 ` John Garry
2026-02-25 15:36 ` [PATCH 02/24] scsi-multipath: introduce basic SCSI device support John Garry
2026-03-02 2:16 ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-03-02 11:33 ` John Garry
2026-03-02 2:22 ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-03-02 11:39 ` John Garry
2026-03-03 5:39 ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-03-03 8:01 ` Hannes Reinecke [this message]
2026-03-03 14:20 ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-03-05 15:59 ` John Garry
2026-03-03 6:57 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-03-03 7:45 ` John Garry
2026-02-25 15:36 ` [PATCH 03/24] scsi-multipath: introduce scsi_device head structure John Garry
2026-03-02 2:50 ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-03-02 12:00 ` John Garry
2026-03-03 7:13 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-03-03 7:50 ` John Garry
2026-02-25 15:36 ` [PATCH 04/24] scsi-multipath: introduce scsi_mpath_device_class John Garry
2026-03-02 2:54 ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-03-02 12:01 ` John Garry
2026-03-03 7:16 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-03-03 10:53 ` John Garry
2026-02-25 15:36 ` [PATCH 05/24] scsi-multipath: provide sysfs link from to scsi_device John Garry
2026-03-03 7:19 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-03-03 10:49 ` John Garry
2026-02-25 15:36 ` [PATCH 06/24] scsi-multipath: support iopolicy John Garry
2026-02-25 15:36 ` [PATCH 07/24] scsi-multipath: clone each bio John Garry
2026-03-02 3:21 ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-03-02 12:12 ` John Garry
2026-03-02 16:27 ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-03-02 17:16 ` John Garry
2026-02-25 15:36 ` [PATCH 08/24] scsi-multipath: clear path when decide is blocked John Garry
2026-02-25 15:36 ` [PATCH 09/24] scsi-multipath: failover handling John Garry
2026-03-02 3:57 ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-03-02 12:20 ` John Garry
2026-03-04 5:46 ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-03-04 11:11 ` John Garry
2026-02-25 15:36 ` [PATCH 10/24] scsi-multipath: add scsi_mpath_{start,end}_request() John Garry
2026-03-02 4:08 ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-03-02 12:20 ` John Garry
2026-03-04 6:13 ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-03-04 11:11 ` John Garry
2026-03-05 2:37 ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-02-25 15:36 ` [PATCH 11/24] scsi-multipath: add scsi_mpath_ioctl() John Garry
2026-02-25 15:36 ` [PATCH 12/24] scsi-multipath: provide callbacks for path state John Garry
2026-03-03 5:31 ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-02-25 15:36 ` [PATCH 13/24] scsi-multipath: set disk device_groups John Garry
2026-02-25 15:36 ` [PATCH 14/24] scsi-multipath: add PR support John Garry
2026-02-25 15:36 ` [PATCH 15/24] scsi: sd: refactor PR ops John Garry
2026-02-25 15:36 ` [PATCH 16/24] scsi: sd: add multipath disk class John Garry
2026-02-25 15:36 ` [PATCH 17/24] scsi: sd: add sd_mpath_{start,end}_command() John Garry
2026-02-25 15:36 ` [PATCH 18/24] scsi: sd: add sd_mpath_ioctl() John Garry
2026-02-25 15:36 ` [PATCH 19/24] scsi: sd: add multipath PR support John Garry
2026-02-25 15:36 ` [PATCH 20/24] scsi: sd: add sd_mpath_to_disk() John Garry
2026-02-25 15:36 ` [PATCH 21/24] scsi: sd: support multipath disk John Garry
2026-03-10 2:40 ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-03-10 10:12 ` John Garry
2026-03-10 15:19 ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-02-25 15:36 ` [PATCH 22/24] scsi: sd: add mpath_dev file John Garry
2026-02-25 15:36 ` [PATCH 23/24] scsi: sd: add mpath_numa_nodes dev attribute John Garry
2026-02-25 15:36 ` [PATCH 24/24] scsi: sd: add mpath_queue_depth " John Garry
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