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From: "Martin Eriksson" <nitrax@giron.wox.org>
To: "Helge Hafting" <helgehaf@idb.hist.no>,
	"Florian Weimer" <Weimer@CERT.Uni-Stuttgart.DE>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: SSSCA: We're in trouble now
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 10:40:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <003d01c1c360$96194600$0201a8c0@homer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1015028463.2276.231.camel@thanatos> <87bse7nz8g.fsf@CERT.Uni-Stuttgart.DE> <20020304083055.GB21138@hh.idb.hist.no>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Helge Hafting" <helgehaf@idb.hist.no>
To: "Florian Weimer" <Weimer@CERT.Uni-Stuttgart.DE>;
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: SSSCA: We're in trouble now


> On Sat, Mar 02, 2002 at 09:35:43AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> [...]
> > That's not necessarily true.  Most people cannot circumvent even basic
> > obstacles when it comes to computers, and both industry and
> > legislative might be content with that.
>
> Don't be too sure about that.  If a "few" knows how to circumvent,
> they'll release circumvention kits that anybody can use.
>
> Few people can use a new buffer overflow exploit, much
> more can use a rootkit.

Well, even if those who uses a rootkit are many more than those who knows
how to use a buffer exploit, that doesn't mean they represent more than 5%
of all computer users.

My stepfather just recently figured out that you can actually DRAG a window
around the desktop. I don't think he will be using a rootkit in some time,
and I am pretty sure he don't know anyting about SSSCA, nor will he, nor
will he be able to understand if I told him.

(btw. I might very well be ~69.5% off topic now, as I missed some of the
conversation)

 _____________________________________________________
|  Martin Eriksson <nitrax@giron.wox.org>
|  MSc CSE student, department of Computing Science
|  Umeå University, Sweden


  reply	other threads:[~2002-03-04  9:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-03-02  0:21 Thomas Hood
2002-03-02  8:35 ` Florian Weimer
2002-03-02 17:34   ` M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
2002-03-04  8:30   ` Helge Hafting
2002-03-04  9:40     ` Martin Eriksson [this message]
2002-03-04 17:02       ` Paul G. Allen
2002-03-06  4:41     ` Petro
2002-03-06  9:27       ` Helge Hafting
2002-03-02 15:30 ` Paul P Komkoff Jr
2002-03-02 21:58   ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-03  1:29     ` Greg Louis
2002-03-06  4:51   ` Petro
2002-03-02 17:47 ` Jurgen Botz
2002-03-06  5:00   ` Petro
2002-03-06 16:42     ` Alan Cox
2002-03-06 18:24       ` Paul G. Allen
2002-03-06 23:56       ` Petro
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-03-06 17:20 Ed Vance
2002-03-06 18:31 ` Paul G. Allen
2002-03-04 19:27 Jesse Pollard
2002-03-01 19:46 Paul G. Allen
2002-03-01 20:27 ` Shawn Starr
2002-03-01 21:29   ` Shawn Starr
2002-03-01 22:19     ` Alan Cox
2002-03-02  3:08       ` Neale Banks
2002-03-02  3:03         ` eddantes
2002-03-02 18:32         ` Alan Cox
2002-03-01 22:47     ` Florian Weimer
2002-03-02  2:59       ` Paul G. Allen
2002-03-06  4:26         ` Petro
2002-03-06  4:41         ` Trever L. Adams
2002-03-06 16:26           ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-06 17:03             ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-03-06 18:16             ` Paul G. Allen
2002-03-06 18:35             ` Trever L. Adams
2002-03-07 22:54             ` Florian Weimer
2002-03-08  2:12               ` Tom Rauschenbach
2002-03-01 20:30 ` Xavier Bestel

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