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From: Helge Hafting <helgehaf@aitel.hist.no>
To: Petro <petro@auctionwatch.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: SSSCA: We're in trouble now
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 10:27:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C85E113.C3B6B5B8@aitel.hist.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1015028463.2276.231.camel@thanatos> <87bse7nz8g.fsf@CERT.Uni-Stuttgart.DE> <20020304083055.GB21138@hh.idb.hist.no> <20020306044121.GI22934@auctionwatch.com>

Petro wrote:

> > Don't be too sure about that.  If a "few" knows how to circumvent,
> > they'll release circumvention kits that anybody can use.
> > Few people can use a new buffer overflow exploit, much
> > more can use a rootkit.
> 
>     That will end when you get a tripwire like system on each system
>     that reports back to Microsoft/Apple when certain critical binaries
>     don't match.

There is a difference between a circumvention kit and a rootkit.
The rootkit modifies stuff in order to hide itself.
The circumvention kit doesn't.  It doesn't modify any
"official" binaries - it provides its own binary and lets
the other one sit there.

If this is impossible somehow - replace the tripwire-like system
as well as part of the circumvention kit.  More work,
still possible.  Or firewall the port used to report back
to vendors...

There is so many options.  They may try - they will fail.


Helge Hafting

  reply	other threads:[~2002-03-06  9:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-03-02  0:21 Thomas Hood
2002-03-02  8:35 ` Florian Weimer
2002-03-02 17:34   ` M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
2002-03-04  8:30   ` Helge Hafting
2002-03-04  9:40     ` Martin Eriksson
2002-03-04 17:02       ` Paul G. Allen
2002-03-06  4:41     ` Petro
2002-03-06  9:27       ` Helge Hafting [this message]
2002-03-02 15:30 ` Paul P Komkoff Jr
2002-03-02 21:58   ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-03  1:29     ` Greg Louis
2002-03-06  4:51   ` Petro
2002-03-02 17:47 ` Jurgen Botz
2002-03-06  5:00   ` Petro
2002-03-06 16:42     ` Alan Cox
2002-03-06 18:24       ` Paul G. Allen
2002-03-06 23:56       ` Petro
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-03-06 17:20 Ed Vance
2002-03-06 18:31 ` Paul G. Allen
2002-03-04 19:27 Jesse Pollard
2002-03-01 19:46 Paul G. Allen
2002-03-01 20:27 ` Shawn Starr
2002-03-01 21:29   ` Shawn Starr
2002-03-01 22:19     ` Alan Cox
2002-03-02  3:08       ` Neale Banks
2002-03-02  3:03         ` eddantes
2002-03-02 18:32         ` Alan Cox
2002-03-01 22:47     ` Florian Weimer
2002-03-02  2:59       ` Paul G. Allen
2002-03-06  4:26         ` Petro
2002-03-06  4:41         ` Trever L. Adams
2002-03-06 16:26           ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-06 17:03             ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-03-06 18:16             ` Paul G. Allen
2002-03-06 18:35             ` Trever L. Adams
2002-03-07 22:54             ` Florian Weimer
2002-03-08  2:12               ` Tom Rauschenbach
2002-03-01 20:30 ` Xavier Bestel

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