From: "Li Zhe" <lizhe.67@bytedance.com>
To: "Bharata B Rao" <bharata@amd.com>, <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
<bsegall@google.com>, <david@kernel.org>,
<dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>, <gourry@gourry.net>,
<joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>, <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
<kprateek.nayak@amd.com>, <ljs@kernel.org>, <mgorman@suse.de>,
<mingo@redhat.com>, <peterz@infradead.org>, <riel@redhat.com>,
<rostedt@goodmis.org>, <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
<vschneid@redhat.com>, <ziy@nvidia.com>
Cc: <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] sched/numa: make free-space tiering promotion bypass configurable
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2026 17:46:40 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <010b2b6c-8f1b-4c3b-913f-cc2e8b957759@bytedance.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0676993f-c04c-4e4e-9f8d-1650c8fd6d6e@amd.com>
On 10/29/26 5:34 PM, Bharata B Rao wrote:
> On 28-Oct-26 9:42 AM, Li Zhe wrote:
>> Memory tiering normally promotes any recently accessed slow-tier page if
>> the target fast-tier node has enough free space. This preserves the
>> existing policy of filling available fast memory before relying on
>> hotness and rate-limit control.
>>
>> That is not always the desired policy. Some deployments may intentionally
>> keep part of a workload's memory on CXL-attached memory, for example to
>> preserve a desired DRAM/CXL capacity split or bandwidth distribution. With
>> the free-space bypass, short cold accesses and bursts of hot accesses can
>> refill the fast tier and pull the workload away from that distribution
>> whenever DRAM has free space.
>>
>> Redis testing exercises this policy issue. On a CXL system with node0 as
>> DRAM and node3 as slow-tier memory, a Redis test was run with
>> memory-tiering-only mode enabled. The test used a Redis dataset with 12
>> million 4KB values. It reclaimed memory until about 85% of Redis
>> anonymous memory was on node3, used a Redis benchmark configuration with
>> a 10% hot-key working set, and then issued a short 256MB access burst to
>> cold keys outside that working set. The cold-key burst mainly touches
>> memory outside the hot working set, which is expected to remain mostly on
>> the slow tier.
> Can you please clarify if 85% of redis memory ended up on lower tier naturally
> due to overflow from toptier? I ask this question because, if it is a natural
> overflow/demotion, then it will be hard to find head room in the toptier to
> allow promotions that bypass hotness or rate limit checks."
It was not a natural overflow from a full top tier.
The test intentionally reclaimed/demoted Redis memory to the lower tier
to model a deployment that keeps only a limited fraction of the workload
in DRAM and leaves the rest on CXL memory. In that setup the top tier can
still have enough free space, so the current free-space bypass can promote
short cold accesses back to DRAM.
Those pages are not hot enough to be promoted by the normal
hotness/rate-limit path, but the free-space bypass can still promote them
when the top tier has enough free space.
Thanks for pointing this out. I will clarify this setup in the commit
message.
Thanks,
Zhe
>
> Regards,
> Bharata.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-29 9:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-28 4:12 [PATCH v2 0/3] sched/numa: refine memory tiering promotion heuristics Li Zhe
2026-10-28 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] sched/numa: make free-space tiering promotion bypass configurable Li Zhe
2026-10-29 4:16 ` Bharata B Rao
2026-10-29 6:24 ` Li Zhe
2026-10-29 9:34 ` Bharata B Rao
2026-10-29 9:46 ` Li Zhe [this message]
2026-10-29 10:22 ` Bharata B Rao
2026-10-29 11:33 ` Li Zhe
2026-10-28 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] sched/numa: do not feed tiering promotions into task placement stats Li Zhe
2026-10-28 15:03 ` Joshua Hahn
2026-10-29 2:52 ` Li Zhe
2026-10-29 5:51 ` Bharata B Rao
2026-10-29 6:29 ` Li Zhe
2026-10-28 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] sched/numa: fix scan-period adjustment for tiering-only mode Li Zhe
2026-10-29 6:21 ` Bharata B Rao
2026-10-29 8:16 ` Li Zhe
2026-10-28 9:20 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] sched/numa: refine memory tiering promotion heuristics Peter Zijlstra
2026-10-29 2:49 ` Li Zhe
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