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From: Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>
To: Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>
Cc: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>,
	linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org, amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/8] PCI: Add pci_find_common_upstream_dev()
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 12:46:42 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0234bc5e-495e-0f68-fb0a-debb17a35761@deltatee.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180330015854.GA3572@redhat.com>



On 29/03/18 07:58 PM, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 10:25:52AM -0600, Logan Gunthorpe wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 29/03/18 10:10 AM, Christian König wrote:
>>> Why not? I mean the dma_map_resource() function is for P2P while other 
>>> dma_map_* functions are only for system memory.
>>
>> Oh, hmm, I wasn't aware dma_map_resource was exclusively for mapping
>> P2P. Though it's a bit odd seeing we've been working under the
>> assumption that PCI P2P is different as it has to translate the PCI bus
>> address. Where as P2P for devices on other buses is a big unknown.
> 
> dma_map_resource() is the right API (thought its current implementation
> is fill with x86 assumptions). So i would argue that arch can decide to
> implement it or simply return dma error address which trigger fallback
> path into the caller (at least for GPU drivers). SG variant can be added
> on top.
> 
> dma_map_resource() is the right API because it has all the necessary
> informations. It use the CPU physical address as the common address
> "language" with CPU physical address of PCIE bar to map to another
> device you can find the corresponding bus address from the IOMMU code
> (NOP on x86). So dma_map_resource() knows both the source device which
> export its PCIE bar and the destination devices.

Well, as it is today, it doesn't look very sane to me. The default is to
just return the physical address if the architecture doesn't support it.
So if someone tries this on an arch that hasn't added itself to return
an error they're very likely going to just end up DMAing to an invalid
address and loosing the data or causing a machine check.

Furthermore, the API does not have all the information it needs to do
sane things. A phys_addr_t doesn't really tell you anything about the
memory behind it or what needs to be done with it. For example, on some
arm64 implementations if the physical address points to a PCI BAR and
that BAR is behind a switch with the DMA device then the address must be
converted to the PCI BUS address. On the other hand, if it's a physical
address of a device in an SOC it might need to  be handled in a
completely different way. And right now all the implementations I can
find seem to just assume that phys_addr_t points to regular memory and
can be treated as such.

This is one of the reasons that, based on feedback, our work went from
being general P2P with any device to being restricted to only P2P with
PCI devices. The dream that we can just grab the physical address of any
device and use it in a DMA request is simply not realistic.

Logan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-03-30 18:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-25 10:59 [PATCH 1/8] lib/scatterlist: add sg_set_dma_addr() helper Christian König
2018-03-25 10:59 ` [PATCH 2/8] PCI: Add pci_find_common_upstream_dev() Christian König
2018-03-28 12:38   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-03-28 15:07     ` Christian König
2018-03-28 15:47       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-28 16:02         ` Christian König
2018-03-28 16:25           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-28 18:28             ` Christian König
2018-03-28 18:57               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-28 19:44                 ` Christian König
2018-03-28 19:53                   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-29 11:44                     ` Christian König
2018-03-29 15:45                       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-29 16:10                         ` Christian König
2018-03-29 16:25                           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-29 18:15                             ` Christian König
2018-03-30  1:58                             ` Jerome Glisse
2018-03-30  6:33                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-03-30 15:25                                 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-03-30 18:46                               ` Logan Gunthorpe [this message]
2018-03-30 19:45                                 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-04-02 17:02                                   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-02 17:20                                     ` Jerome Glisse
2018-04-02 17:37                                       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-02 19:16                                         ` Jerome Glisse
2018-04-02 19:32                                           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-02 19:45                                             ` Jerome Glisse
     [not found]                     ` <CADnq5_P-z=Noos_jaME9_CERri3C-m2hPPvx2bArr36O=1FnrA@mail.gmail.com>
2018-03-29 14:37                       ` Alex Deucher
2018-03-25 10:59 ` [PATCH 3/8] PCI: Add pci_peer_traffic_supported() Christian König
2018-03-25 10:59 ` [PATCH 4/8] dma-buf: add peer2peer flag Christian König
2018-03-29  6:57   ` Daniel Vetter
2018-03-29 11:34     ` Christian König
2018-04-03  9:09       ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-03 17:06         ` Jerome Glisse
2018-04-03 18:08           ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-16 12:39             ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-16 13:38               ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-19  8:16                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-20  7:13                   ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-20  8:58                     ` Christian König
2018-04-20 10:17                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-20 10:44                         ` Christian König
2018-04-20 12:46                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-20 15:21                             ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Daniel Vetter
2018-04-24 18:48                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-24 19:32                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25  5:48                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-25  6:10                                     ` Alex Deucher
2018-04-25  6:13                                     ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25  6:23                                       ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25  6:43                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-25  7:02                                           ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25  7:09                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-25  7:30                                               ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25  7:56                                                 ` Thierry Reding
2018-04-25  8:55                                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-25  7:43                                               ` Thierry Reding
2018-04-25  7:41                                           ` Thierry Reding
2018-04-25  8:54                                             ` noveau vs arm dma ops Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-25  9:25                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-04-25 10:04                                               ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25 15:33                                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-25 21:35                                                   ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25 23:26                                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-04-26  9:17                                                       ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-26  9:09                                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-26  9:45                                                       ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-26 11:12                                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-04-25 22:54                                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-04-26  9:13                                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-26  9:20                                                     ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Daniel Vetter
2018-04-26  9:24                                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-26  9:39                                                         ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25  6:24                                       ` [Linaro-mm-sig] [PATCH 4/8] dma-buf: add peer2peer flag Alex Deucher
2018-04-25  6:41                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-25 17:44                                           ` Alex Deucher
2018-04-25 18:38                                             ` Dan Williams
2018-05-04 12:45                                             ` Lucas Stach
2018-03-25 10:59 ` [PATCH 5/8] drm/amdgpu: print DMA-buf status in debugfs Christian König
2018-03-25 10:59 ` [PATCH 6/8] drm/amdgpu: note that we can handle peer2peer DMA-buf Christian König
2018-03-25 10:59 ` [PATCH 7/8] drm/amdgpu: add amdgpu_gem_attach Christian König
2018-03-25 11:00 ` [PATCH 8/8] drm/amdgpu: add support for exporting VRAM using DMA-buf Christian König
2018-03-28 12:37 ` [PATCH 1/8] lib/scatterlist: add sg_set_dma_addr() helper Christoph Hellwig

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