From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: "Logan Gunthorpe" <logang@deltatee.com>,
"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/8] PCI: Add pci_find_common_upstream_dev()
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 21:44:11 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <73578b4e-664b-141c-3e1f-e1fae1e4db07@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e751cd28-f115-569f-5248-d24f30dee3cb@deltatee.com>
Am 28.03.2018 um 20:57 schrieb Logan Gunthorpe:
>
> On 28/03/18 12:28 PM, Christian König wrote:
>> I'm just using amdgpu as blueprint because I'm the co-maintainer of it
>> and know it mostly inside out.
> Ah, I see.
>
>> The resource addresses are translated using dma_map_resource(). As far
>> as I know that should be sufficient to offload all the architecture
>> specific stuff to the DMA subsystem.
> It's not. The dma_map infrastructure currently has no concept of
> peer-to-peer mappings and is designed for system memory only. No
> architecture I'm aware of will translate PCI CPU addresses into PCI Bus
> addresses which is necessary for any transfer that doesn't go through
> the root complex (though on arches like x86 the CPU and Bus address
> happen to be the same). There's a lot of people that would like to see
> this change but it's likely going to be a long road before it does.
Well, isn't that exactly what dma_map_resource() is good for? As far as
I can see it makes sure IOMMU is aware of the access route and
translates a CPU address into a PCI Bus address.
> Furthermore, one of the reasons our patch-set avoids going through the
> root complex at all is that IOMMU drivers will need to be made aware
> that it is operating on P2P memory and do arch-specific things
> accordingly. There will also need to be flags that indicate whether a
> given IOMMU driver supports this. None of this work is done or easy.
I'm using that with the AMD IOMMU driver and at least there it works
perfectly fine.
>> Yeah, but not for ours. See if you want to do real peer 2 peer you need
>> to keep both the operation as well as the direction into account.
> Not sure what you are saying here... I'm pretty sure we are doing "real"
> peer 2 peer...
>
>> For example when you can do writes between A and B that doesn't mean
>> that writes between B and A work. And reads are generally less likely to
>> work than writes. etc...
> If both devices are behind a switch then the PCI spec guarantees that A
> can both read and write B and vice versa.
Sorry to say that, but I know a whole bunch of PCI devices which
horrible ignores that.
For example all AMD APUs fall under that category...
> Only once you involve root
> complexes do you have this problem. Ie. you have unknown support which
> may be no support, or partial support (stores but not loads); or
> sometimes bad performance; or a combination of both... and you need some
> way to figure out all this mess and that is hard. Whoever tries to
> implement a white list will have to sort all this out.
Yes, exactly and unfortunately it looks like I'm the poor guy who needs
to do this :)
Regards,
Christian.
>
> Logan
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-03-28 19:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-03-25 10:59 [PATCH 1/8] lib/scatterlist: add sg_set_dma_addr() helper Christian König
2018-03-25 10:59 ` [PATCH 2/8] PCI: Add pci_find_common_upstream_dev() Christian König
2018-03-28 12:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-03-28 15:07 ` Christian König
2018-03-28 15:47 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-28 16:02 ` Christian König
2018-03-28 16:25 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-28 18:28 ` Christian König
2018-03-28 18:57 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-28 19:44 ` Christian König [this message]
2018-03-28 19:53 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-29 11:44 ` Christian König
2018-03-29 15:45 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-29 16:10 ` Christian König
2018-03-29 16:25 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-29 18:15 ` Christian König
2018-03-30 1:58 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-03-30 6:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-03-30 15:25 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-03-30 18:46 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-30 19:45 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-04-02 17:02 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-02 17:20 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-04-02 17:37 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-02 19:16 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-04-02 19:32 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-02 19:45 ` Jerome Glisse
[not found] ` <CADnq5_P-z=Noos_jaME9_CERri3C-m2hPPvx2bArr36O=1FnrA@mail.gmail.com>
2018-03-29 14:37 ` Alex Deucher
2018-03-25 10:59 ` [PATCH 3/8] PCI: Add pci_peer_traffic_supported() Christian König
2018-03-25 10:59 ` [PATCH 4/8] dma-buf: add peer2peer flag Christian König
2018-03-29 6:57 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-03-29 11:34 ` Christian König
2018-04-03 9:09 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-03 17:06 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-04-03 18:08 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-16 12:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-16 13:38 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-19 8:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-20 7:13 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-20 8:58 ` Christian König
2018-04-20 10:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-20 10:44 ` Christian König
2018-04-20 12:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-20 15:21 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Daniel Vetter
2018-04-24 18:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-24 19:32 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25 5:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-25 6:10 ` Alex Deucher
2018-04-25 6:13 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25 6:23 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25 6:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-25 7:02 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25 7:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-25 7:30 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25 7:56 ` Thierry Reding
2018-04-25 8:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-25 7:43 ` Thierry Reding
2018-04-25 7:41 ` Thierry Reding
2018-04-25 8:54 ` noveau vs arm dma ops Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-25 9:25 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-04-25 10:04 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25 15:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-25 21:35 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25 23:26 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-04-26 9:17 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-26 9:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-26 9:45 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-26 11:12 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-04-25 22:54 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-04-26 9:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-26 9:20 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Daniel Vetter
2018-04-26 9:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-26 9:39 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25 6:24 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] [PATCH 4/8] dma-buf: add peer2peer flag Alex Deucher
2018-04-25 6:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-25 17:44 ` Alex Deucher
2018-04-25 18:38 ` Dan Williams
2018-05-04 12:45 ` Lucas Stach
2018-03-25 10:59 ` [PATCH 5/8] drm/amdgpu: print DMA-buf status in debugfs Christian König
2018-03-25 10:59 ` [PATCH 6/8] drm/amdgpu: note that we can handle peer2peer DMA-buf Christian König
2018-03-25 10:59 ` [PATCH 7/8] drm/amdgpu: add amdgpu_gem_attach Christian König
2018-03-25 11:00 ` [PATCH 8/8] drm/amdgpu: add support for exporting VRAM using DMA-buf Christian König
2018-03-28 12:37 ` [PATCH 1/8] lib/scatterlist: add sg_set_dma_addr() helper Christoph Hellwig
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