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From: "Takashi Sato" <sho@bsd.tnes.nec.co.jp>
To: "Trond Myklebust" <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
Cc: "Dave Kleikamp" <shaggy@austin.ibm.com>,
	"'Andreas Dilger'" <adilger@clusterfs.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: stat64 for over 2TB file returned invalid st_blocks
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:22:56 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <025c01c5fd7c$147f0d50$4168010a@bsd.tnes.nec.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1134052043.7998.26.camel@lade.trondhjem.org>

Hi,

>> I prefer sector_t for i_blocks rather than newly defined blkcnt_t.
>> The reasons are:
>> 
>>   - Both i_blocks and common sector_t are for on-disk 512-byte unit.
>>     In this point of view, they have the same character.
> 
> One is a count of the number of blocks used by a file, and exists only
> in order to help filesystems cache this value. The other is a handle to
> a block. How is that the same?

Both i_blocks and sector_t handle on-disk blocks in a certain unit.

But their relation seems to be similar to the relation between off_t
and size_t of POSIX.  So adding blkcnt_t makes sense too.  I'll think
of this point further.

By the way, I think there is a kind of confusions on sector_t.  Its
unit is 512 bytes on block/ and driver/ tree, but it is filesystem
block on fs/ tree.  Does anyone think the latter should be fsblock_t
or something?

>>   - If we created the type blkcnt_t newly, the patch would have to
>>     touch a lot of files as follows, like sector_t does.
>>         block/Kconfig, asm-i386/types.h, asm-x86_64/types.h,
>>         asm-ppc/types.h, asm-s390/types.h, asm-sh/types.h,
>>         asm-h8300/types.h, asm-mips/types.h
>>     It will be simple if we use sector_t for i_blocks.
> 
> That is not a particularly good reason.
> 
>> Also, I cannot imagine the situation that > 2TB files are used over
>> network with CONFIG_LBD disabled kernel.  Is there such a thing
>> realistically?

CONFIG_LBD is enabled not only on HPC but on all major distribution for
server and desktop.  The only exception is embedded system, isn't it?

> Apart from this and the kstat wart, there is no reason to set CONFIG_LBD
> for a networked filesystem. Why would you want to buy a > 2TB local disk
> on an HPC cluster node if you already have a server?
> 
> I suppose we can make NFS use a private field instead, and just set
> i_blocks to 0, but that's unnecessarily wasteful too.

I think your suggestion is effective only for the problem of stat64,
but other problems would be left on code which handles inode.i_blocks.
For example, ioctl with FIOQSIZE command returns the size of file's
data calculated from inode.i_blocks.  If inode.i_blocks is 0, ioctl
with FIOQSIZE always returns 0 even if the file data exists.

-- Takashi Sato

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-12-10 11:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-06 12:42 Takashi Sato
2005-12-06 14:30 ` Dave Kleikamp
2005-12-06 14:48   ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-06 14:51     ` Dave Kleikamp
2005-12-06 21:24     ` Andreas Dilger
2005-12-07  0:59       ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-07 10:57       ` Takashi Sato
2005-12-07 13:52         ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-07 15:01           ` Dave Kleikamp
2005-12-07 15:34             ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-07 16:34               ` Dave Kleikamp
2005-12-07 18:55                 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-08 11:38                 ` Takashi Sato
2005-12-08 14:27                   ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-08 14:50                     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-12-08 15:03                       ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-10 11:22                     ` Takashi Sato [this message]
     [not found] <5eVqw-2ug-61@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-12-03  2:19 ` Bodo Eggert
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-12-01 12:00 Takashi Sato
2005-12-01 12:39 ` Jörn Engel
2005-12-01 12:52 ` Jörn Engel
2005-12-01 13:52   ` Avi Kivity
2005-12-01 14:32 ` Dave Kleikamp
2005-12-02 13:18   ` Takashi Sato
2005-12-02 14:11     ` Dave Kleikamp
2005-12-02 18:58     ` Andreas Dilger
2005-12-03 13:00       ` Takashi Sato
2005-12-05  8:11         ` Andreas Dilger
2005-12-05 12:35           ` Takashi Sato
2005-12-05 13:34           ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-01 14:53 ` Al Viro

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