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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, hughd@google.com
Cc: willy@infradead.org, wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com,
	chrisl@kernel.org, ying.huang@intel.com, 21cnbao@gmail.com,
	ryan.roberts@arm.com, shy828301@gmail.com, ziy@nvidia.com,
	ioworker0@gmail.com, da.gomez@samsung.com, p.raghav@samsung.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 01/10] mm: vmscan: add validation before spliting shmem large folio
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2024 10:51:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <03a7c798-7a0d-4873-8fcb-8940d8dadc00@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <770190a2-3938-4ba9-9aaf-7320b34addf4@linux.alibaba.com>

On 08.08.24 04:36, Baolin Wang wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2024/8/7 23:53, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 07.08.24 09:31, Baolin Wang wrote:
>>> Page reclaim will not scan anon LRU if no swap space, however
>>> MADV_PAGEOUT
>>> can still split shmem large folios even without a swap device. Thus add
>>> swap available space validation before spliting shmem large folio to
>>> avoid redundant split.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
>>> ---
>>>    mm/vmscan.c | 8 ++++++++
>>>    1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
>>> index 31d13462571e..796f65781f4f 100644
>>> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
>>> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
>>> @@ -1259,6 +1259,14 @@ static unsigned int shrink_folio_list(struct
>>> list_head *folio_list,
>>>                }
>>>            } else if (folio_test_swapbacked(folio) &&
>>>                   folio_test_large(folio)) {
>>> +
>>> +            /*
>>> +             * Do not split shmem folio if no swap memory
>>> +             * available.
>>> +             */
>>> +            if (!total_swap_pages)
>>> +                goto activate_locked;
>>> +
>>>                /* Split shmem folio */
>>>                if (split_folio_to_list(folio, folio_list))
>>>                    goto keep_locked;
>>
>> Reminds me of
>>
>> commit 9a976f0c847b67d22ed694556a3626ed92da0422
>> Author: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>
>> Date:   Thu Mar 9 15:05:43 2023 -0800
>>
>>       shmem: skip page split if we're not reclaiming
>>       In theory when info->flags & VM_LOCKED we should not be getting
>>       shem_writepage() called so we should be verifying this with a
>>       WARN_ON_ONCE().  Since we should not be swapping then best to
>> ensure we
>>       also don't do the folio split earlier too.  So just move the check
>> early
>>       to avoid folio splits in case its a dubious call.
>>       We also have a similar early bail when !total_swap_pages so just
>> move that
>>       earlier to avoid the possible folio split in the same situation.
>>
>>
>> But indeed, pageout() -> writepage() is called *after* the split in the
>> vmscan path.
>>
>> In that "noswap" context, I wonder if we also want to skip folios part
>> of shmem
>> with disabled swapping?
> 
> Yes, I think so.
> 
>>
>> But now I am wondering under which circumstances we end up calling
>> shmem_writepage() with a large folio. And I think the answer is the
>> comment of
>> folio_test_large(): via drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gem/i915_gem_shmem.c.
>>
>>
>> ... so if shmem_writepage() handles+checks that, could we do
>>
>> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
>> index a332cb80e928..7dfa3d6e8ba7 100644
>> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
>> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
>> @@ -1257,11 +1257,6 @@ static unsigned int shrink_folio_list(struct
>> list_head *folio_list,
>>                                                   goto
>> activate_locked_split;
>>                                   }
>>                           }
>> -               } else if (folio_test_swapbacked(folio) &&
>> -                          folio_test_large(folio)) {
>> -                       /* Split shmem folio */
>> -                       if (split_folio_to_list(folio, folio_list))
>> -                               goto keep_locked;
>>                   }
>>
>>                   /*
>>
>> instead?
> 
> Seems reasonable to me. But we should pass the 'folio_list' to
> shmem_writepage() to list the subpages of the large folio. Let me try.

Ah, yes, good point. Alternatively, we'd have to split and try writing 
all subpages in there. I wonder what to do if we fail to write some, and 
if we could handle that transparently, without the folio_list.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb


  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-08  8:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-07  7:31 [PATCH v4 00/10] support large folio swap-out and swap-in for shmem Baolin Wang
2024-08-07  7:31 ` [PATCH v4 01/10] mm: vmscan: add validation before spliting shmem large folio Baolin Wang
2024-08-07 15:53   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-08  2:36     ` Baolin Wang
2024-08-08  8:51       ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2024-08-08  9:34         ` Baolin Wang
2024-08-08 10:48           ` Daniel Gomez
2024-08-08 10:57             ` Daniel Gomez
2024-08-08 11:51               ` Baolin Wang
2024-08-08 12:35       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-08-09  3:21         ` Baolin Wang
2024-08-07  7:31 ` [PATCH v4 02/10] mm: swap: extend swap_shmem_alloc() to support batch SWAP_MAP_SHMEM flag setting Baolin Wang
2024-08-07  8:02   ` Barry Song
2024-08-07  7:31 ` [PATCH v4 03/10] mm: shmem: extend shmem_partial_swap_usage() to support large folio swap Baolin Wang
2024-08-07  7:31 ` [PATCH v4 04/10] mm: shmem: return number of pages beeing freed in shmem_free_swap Baolin Wang
2024-08-07  7:31 ` [PATCH v4 05/10] mm: filemap: use xa_get_order() to get the swap entry order Baolin Wang
2024-08-07  7:31 ` [PATCH v4 06/10] mm: shmem: use swap_free_nr() to free shmem swap entries Baolin Wang
2024-08-07  7:31 ` [PATCH v4 07/10] mm: shmem: support large folio allocation for shmem_replace_folio() Baolin Wang
2024-08-07  7:31 ` [PATCH v4 08/10] mm: shmem: drop folio reference count using 'nr_pages' in shmem_delete_from_page_cache() Baolin Wang
2024-08-07  7:31 ` [PATCH v4 09/10] mm: shmem: split large entry if the swapin folio is not large Baolin Wang
2024-08-07  7:31 ` [PATCH v4 10/10] mm: shmem: support large folio swap out Baolin Wang

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