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From: "J. Dow" <jdow@earthlink.net>
To: "Andreas Dilger" <adilger@clusterfs.com>,
	"Herbert Xu" <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Why HZ on i386 is 100 ?
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 17:34:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <053d01c1e5a7$b4121e70$1125a8c0@wednesday> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020416222156.GB20464@turbolinux.com> <E16xba3-0005tw-00@gondolin.me.apana.org.au> <20020416225631.GD20464@turbolinux.com>

From: "Andreas Dilger" <adilger@clusterfs.com>

> On Apr 17, 2002  08:37 +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> > Why are we still measuring uptime using the tick variable? Ticks != time.
> > Surely we should be recording the boot time somewhere (probably on a
> > file system), and then comparing that with the current time?
> 
> Er, because the 'tick' is a valid count of the actual time that the
> system has been running, while the "boot time" is totally meaningless.
> What if the system has no RTC, or the RTC is wrong until later in the
> boot sequence when it can be set by the user/ntpd?  What if you pass
> daylight savings time?  Does your uptime increase/decrease by an hour?

Well, Andreas, it seems like a very simple thing to define the time
quantum, "tick", differently from the resolution of the count reported
by a call to get the tick counter value. If the latter maintains a
constant resolution even if the tick time changes then all utilities
should continue to work. Of course, with a tick time resolution of 10mS
it gets ugly when setting up a tick time of 1mS. Ideally reporting would
have an LSB of a microsecond or even a tenth microsecond while the
increment might still be a hundredth or thousandth of a second. Of course,
that blows anything that relies on the tick counter to smithereens, I fear.

{^_^}   Joanne "I STILL want a Linux suitable for multimedia applications" Dow.
        jdow@earthlink.net    (1mS ticks is a GREAT help for multimedia apps.)


  reply	other threads:[~2002-04-17  0:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-04-16  7:47 Olaf Fraczyk
2002-04-16  8:14 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-04-16  8:18   ` BALBIR SINGH
2002-04-16 10:29     ` Liam Girdwood
2002-04-16 10:01       ` Olaf Fraczyk
2002-04-16 13:35         ` Terje Eggestad
2002-04-16 13:38           ` Mark Mielke
2002-04-16 13:55             ` Terje Eggestad
2002-04-16 15:32             ` Rik van Riel
2002-04-16 16:12               ` Chris Friesen
2002-04-16 17:12               ` Mark Mielke
2002-04-16 13:58           ` Alan Cox
2002-04-17  0:22             ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-04-16 16:27         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-04-16 16:50           ` David Mosberger
2002-04-16 17:18             ` Davide Libenzi
2002-04-16 17:52               ` David Mosberger
2002-04-16 18:10                 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-04-17  0:49               ` David Mosberger
2002-04-17  0:57                 ` Robert Love
2002-04-17  1:07                   ` Davide Libenzi
2002-04-17  5:18                   ` Mark Mielke
2002-04-17  5:34                     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-04-17  6:01                       ` Robert Love
2002-04-17  6:17                         ` David Mosberger
2002-04-17  7:59                         ` arjan
2002-04-17  8:04                         ` Matti Aarnio
2002-04-23 22:42                           ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-04-17 10:12                       ` Martin Dalecki
2002-04-18  1:51                   ` Dan Mann
2002-04-17  1:22                 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-04-17  3:19                 ` Ben Greear
2002-04-17  7:55                 ` Helge Hafting
2002-04-21 18:00                 ` Pavel Machek
2002-04-22 17:20                   ` John Alvord
2002-04-22 21:52                     ` george anzinger
2002-04-22 23:06                       ` J.D. Bakker
2002-04-22 23:26                       ` Anton Blanchard
2002-04-23 19:03                         ` george anzinger
2002-04-23  7:08                       ` Alan Cox
2002-04-22 17:24                   ` David Mosberger
2002-04-16 12:42     ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-04-16 12:31   ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-04-16 14:04 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-04-16 21:34 ` bert hubert
2002-04-16 22:21   ` Andreas Dilger
2002-04-16 22:37     ` Herbert Xu
2002-04-16 22:56       ` Andreas Dilger
2002-04-17  0:34         ` J. Dow [this message]
2002-04-17  2:40         ` Herbert Xu
2002-04-17 12:44       ` Kent Borg
2002-04-17  8:28     ` please merge 64-bit jiffy patches. Was " bert hubert
2002-04-17 11:05       ` please merge 64-bit jiffy patches Tim Schmielau
2002-04-17 11:12         ` bert hubert
2002-04-17 12:33           ` Bill Davidsen
2002-04-17 12:42             ` bert hubert
2002-04-17 14:57               ` Bill Davidsen
2002-04-17 11:09       ` please merge 64-bit jiffy patches. Was Re: Why HZ on i386 is 100 ? Wakko Warner
2002-04-16 10:41 Cabaniols, Sebastien
2002-04-17  0:33 Chen, Kenneth W
2002-04-17  1:02 ` Davide Libenzi
     [not found] <3CC4861C.F21859A6@mvista.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <E16zuPf-0007yD-00@the-village.bc.nu.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-04-23  7:17   ` Andi Kleen
2002-04-23 19:09     ` george anzinger
2002-04-24  1:42       ` Alan Cox
2002-04-24 20:20         ` george anzinger
2002-04-27 20:26           ` Alan Cox
2002-04-28  6:02             ` george anzinger
2002-04-28  9:12               ` Alan Cox
2002-04-28 17:34                 ` george anzinger
2002-04-28 18:59                   ` Alan Cox
2002-04-28 21:50                     ` george anzinger
2002-04-29  0:14                       ` Alan Cox
2002-04-23 19:24     ` george anzinger
2002-04-23 19:35       ` Andi Kleen
2002-04-24 17:25         ` Maciej W. Rozycki

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