From: Gao Xiang <hsiangkao@linux.alibaba.com>
To: paulmck@kernel.org, Sandeep Dhavale <dhavale@google.com>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
Neeraj Upadhyay <quic_neeraju@quicinc.com>,
Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
Zqiang <qiang.zhang1211@gmail.com>,
Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
linux-erofs@lists.ozlabs.org, xiang@kernel.org,
Will Shiu <Will.Shiu@mediatek.com>,
kernel-team@android.com, rcu@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] rcu: Fix and improve RCU read lock checks when !CONFIG_DEBUG_LOCK_ALLOC
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2023 11:16:52 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <058e7ee9-0380-eb1b-d9a8-b184cba6ed53@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7d433fac-a62d-4e81-b8e5-57cf5f2d1d55@paulmck-laptop>
On 2023/7/14 10:16, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 09:33:35AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 11:33:24AM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote:
...
>>>
>>> >From what Sandeep described, the code path is in an RCU reader. My
>>> question is more, why doesn't it use SRCU instead since it clearly
>>> does so if BLK_MQ_F_BLOCKING. What are the tradeoffs? IMHO, a deeper
>>> dive needs to be made into that before concluding that the fix is to
>>> use rcu_read_lock_any_held().
>>
>> How can this be solved?
>>
>> 1. Always use a workqueue. Simple, but is said to have performance
>> issues.
>>
>> 2. Pass a flag in that indicates whether or not the caller is in an
>> RCU read-side critical section. Conceptually simple, but might
>> or might not be reasonable to actually implement in the code as
>> it exists now. (You tell me!)
>>
>> 3. Create a function in z_erofs that gives you a decent
>> approximation, maybe something like the following.
>>
>> 4. Other ideas here.
>
> 5. #3 plus make the corresponding Kconfig option select
> PREEMPT_COUNT, assuming that any users needing compression in
> non-preemptible kernels are OK with PREEMPT_COUNT being set.
> (Some users of non-preemptible kernels object strenuously
> to the added overhead from CONFIG_PREEMPT_COUNT=y.)
I'm not sure if it's a good idea, we need to work on
CONFIG_PREEMPT_COUNT=n (why not?), we could just always trigger a
workqueue for this.
Anyway, before we proceed, I also think it'd be better to get some
performance numbers first for this (e.g. with dm-verity) and record
the numbers in the commit message to justify this. Otherwise, I guess
the same question will be raised again and again.
Thanks,
Gao Xiang
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-07-14 3:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-07-11 23:38 Sandeep Dhavale
2023-07-12 17:02 ` Joel Fernandes
2023-07-12 21:20 ` Sandeep Dhavale
2023-07-13 0:32 ` Joel Fernandes
2023-07-13 2:02 ` Gao Xiang
2023-07-13 2:10 ` Gao Xiang
2023-07-13 2:16 ` Joel Fernandes
2023-07-13 4:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-13 4:41 ` Gao Xiang
2023-07-13 4:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-13 4:59 ` Gao Xiang
2023-07-13 14:07 ` Joel Fernandes
2023-07-13 14:34 ` Gao Xiang
2023-07-13 15:33 ` Joel Fernandes
2023-07-13 16:09 ` Alan Huang
2023-07-13 18:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-13 19:00 ` Gao Xiang
2023-07-13 22:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-13 16:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-13 17:05 ` Sandeep Dhavale
2023-07-13 17:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-13 18:51 ` Sandeep Dhavale
2023-07-13 22:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-13 23:08 ` Sandeep Dhavale
2023-07-13 23:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-14 2:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-14 3:16 ` Gao Xiang [this message]
2023-07-14 13:42 ` Joel Fernandes
2023-07-14 13:51 ` Gao Xiang
2023-07-14 14:56 ` Steven Rostedt
2023-07-14 15:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-14 15:35 ` Alan Huang
2023-07-14 15:54 ` Alan Huang
2023-07-14 17:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-14 18:40 ` Alan Huang
2023-07-14 18:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-14 19:15 ` Sandeep Dhavale
2023-07-14 19:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-13 4:51 ` Gao Xiang
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=058e7ee9-0380-eb1b-d9a8-b184cba6ed53@linux.alibaba.com \
--to=hsiangkao@linux.alibaba.com \
--cc=Will.Shiu@mediatek.com \
--cc=angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com \
--cc=boqun.feng@gmail.com \
--cc=dhavale@google.com \
--cc=frederic@kernel.org \
--cc=jiangshanlai@gmail.com \
--cc=joel@joelfernandes.org \
--cc=josh@joshtriplett.org \
--cc=kernel-team@android.com \
--cc=linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org \
--cc=linux-erofs@lists.ozlabs.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org \
--cc=mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com \
--cc=matthias.bgg@gmail.com \
--cc=paulmck@kernel.org \
--cc=qiang.zhang1211@gmail.com \
--cc=quic_neeraju@quicinc.com \
--cc=rcu@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=rostedt@goodmis.org \
--cc=xiang@kernel.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox
all inboxes | Powered by JetHome®