From: Gao Xiang <hsiangkao@linux.alibaba.com>
To: paulmck@kernel.org
Cc: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
Sandeep Dhavale <dhavale@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] rcu: Fix and improve RCU read lock checks when !CONFIG_DEBUG_LOCK_ALLOC
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2023 12:41:09 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f124e041-6a82-2069-975c-4f393e5c4137@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0d9e7b4d-6477-47a6-b3d2-2c9d9b64903d@paulmck-laptop>
On 2023/7/13 12:27, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 10:02:17AM +0800, Gao Xiang wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 2023/7/13 08:32, Joel Fernandes wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 02:20:56PM -0700, Sandeep Dhavale wrote:
>>> [..]
>>>>> As such this patch looks correct to me, one thing I noticed is that
>>>>> you can check rcu_is_watching() like the lockdep-enabled code does.
>>>>> That will tell you also if a reader-section is possible because in
>>>>> extended-quiescent-states, RCU readers should be non-existent or
>>>>> that's a bug.
>>>>>
>>>> Please correct me if I am wrong, reading from the comment in
>>>> kernel/rcu/update.c rcu_read_lock_held_common()
>>>> ..
>>>> * The reason for this is that RCU ignores CPUs that are
>>>> * in such a section, considering these as in extended quiescent state,
>>>> * so such a CPU is effectively never in an RCU read-side critical section
>>>> * regardless of what RCU primitives it invokes.
>>>>
>>>> It seems rcu will treat this as lock not held rather than a fact that
>>>> lock is not held. Is my understanding correct?
>>>
>>> If RCU treats it as a lock not held, that is a fact for RCU ;-). Maybe you
>>> mean it is not a fact for erofs?
>>
>> I'm not sure if I get what you mean, EROFS doesn't take any RCU read lock
>> here:
>
> The key point is that we need lockdep to report errors when
> rcu_read_lock(), rcu_dereference(), and friends are used when RCU is
> not watching. We also need lockdep to report an error when someone
> uses rcu_dereference() when RCU is not watching, but also forgets the
> rcu_read_lock().
>
> And this is the job of rcu_read_lock_held(), which is one reason why
> that rcu_is_watching() is needed.
>
>> z_erofs_decompressqueue_endio() is actually a "bio->bi_end_io", previously
>> which can be called under two scenarios:
>>
>> 1) under softirq context, which is actually part of device I/O compleltion;
>>
>> 2) under threaded context, like what dm-verity or likewise calls.
>>
>> But EROFS needs to decompress in a threaded context anyway, so we trigger
>> a workqueue to resolve the case 1).
>>
>> Recently, someone reported there could be some case 3) [I think it was
>> introduced recently but I have no time to dig into it]:
>>
>> case 3: under RCU read lock context, which is shown by this:
>> https://lore.kernel.org/r/4a8254eb-ac39-1e19-3d82-417d3a7b9f94@linux.alibaba.com/T/#u
>>
>> and such RCU read lock is taken in __blk_mq_run_dispatch_ops().
>>
>> But as the commit shown, we only need to trigger a workqueue for case 1)
>> and 3) due to performance reasons.
>
> Just out of curiosity, exactly how much is it costing to trigger the
> workqueue?
There are lots of performance issues here and even a plumber
topic last year to show that, see:
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/r/20230519001709.2563-1-tj@kernel.org
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/r/CAHk-=wgE9kORADrDJ4nEsHHLirqPCZ1tGaEPAZejHdZ03qCOGg@mail.gmail.com
[3] https://lore.kernel.org/r/CAB=BE-SBtO6vcoyLNA9F-9VaN5R0t3o_Zn+FW8GbO6wyUqFneQ@mail.gmail.com
[4] https://lpc.events/event/16/contributions/1338/
and more.
I'm not sure if it's necessary to look info all of that,
andSandeep knows more than I am (the scheduling issue
becomes vital on some aarch64 platform.)
Thanks,
Gao Xiang
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-07-13 4:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-07-11 23:38 Sandeep Dhavale
2023-07-12 17:02 ` Joel Fernandes
2023-07-12 21:20 ` Sandeep Dhavale
2023-07-13 0:32 ` Joel Fernandes
2023-07-13 2:02 ` Gao Xiang
2023-07-13 2:10 ` Gao Xiang
2023-07-13 2:16 ` Joel Fernandes
2023-07-13 4:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-13 4:41 ` Gao Xiang [this message]
2023-07-13 4:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-13 4:59 ` Gao Xiang
2023-07-13 14:07 ` Joel Fernandes
2023-07-13 14:34 ` Gao Xiang
2023-07-13 15:33 ` Joel Fernandes
2023-07-13 16:09 ` Alan Huang
2023-07-13 18:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-13 19:00 ` Gao Xiang
2023-07-13 22:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-13 16:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-13 17:05 ` Sandeep Dhavale
2023-07-13 17:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-13 18:51 ` Sandeep Dhavale
2023-07-13 22:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-13 23:08 ` Sandeep Dhavale
2023-07-13 23:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-14 2:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-14 3:16 ` Gao Xiang
2023-07-14 13:42 ` Joel Fernandes
2023-07-14 13:51 ` Gao Xiang
2023-07-14 14:56 ` Steven Rostedt
2023-07-14 15:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-14 15:35 ` Alan Huang
2023-07-14 15:54 ` Alan Huang
2023-07-14 17:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-14 18:40 ` Alan Huang
2023-07-14 18:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-14 19:15 ` Sandeep Dhavale
2023-07-14 19:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-13 4:51 ` Gao Xiang
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