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From: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: kernel test robot <oliver.sang@intel.com>,
	oe-lkp@lists.linux.dev,  lkp@intel.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] x86,mm: only trim the mm_cpumask once a second
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2024 20:43:32 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <05946af9f1c223bf20a43b9ced346e39e2f54cad.camel@surriel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4360210d-0656-4328-ab67-240465ab2f9c@intel.com>

On Tue, 2024-12-03 at 16:46 -0800, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 12/3/24 12:07, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > The tlb_flush2 threaded test does not only madvise in a
> > loop, but also mmap and munmap from inside every thread.
> > 
> > This should create massive contention on the mmap_lock,
> > resulting in threads going to sleep while waiting in
> > mmap and munmap.
> > 
> > https://github.com/antonblanchard/will-it-scale/blob/master/tests/tlb_flush2.c
> 
> Oh, wow, it only madvise()'s a 1MB allocation before doing the
> munmap()/mmap(). I somehow remembered it being a lot larger. And,
> yeah,
> I see a ton of idle time which would be 100% explained by mmap_lock
> contention.
> 
> Did the original workload that you care about have idle time?
> 
The workloads that I care about are things like memcache,
web servers, web proxies, and other workloads that typically
handle very short requests before going idle again.

These programs have a LOT of context switches to and from
the idle task.

> I'm wondering if trimming mm_cpumask() on the way to idle but leaving
> it
> alone on a context switch to another thread is a good idea.
> 
The problem with that is that you then have to set the bit
again when switching back to the program, which creates
contention when a number of CPUs are transitioning to and
from idle at the same time.

Atomic operations on a contended cache line from the
context switch code end up being quite visible when
profiling some workloads :)

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-04  1:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-28 14:57 [tip:x86/mm] [x86/mm/tlb] 209954cbc7: will-it-scale.per_thread_ops 13.2% regression kernel test robot
2024-11-28 16:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-29  1:44   ` Oliver Sang
2024-11-28 19:46 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-11-29  2:52   ` Rik van Riel
2024-12-02 16:30     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-12-02 18:10       ` Rik van Riel
2024-12-02 16:50   ` Dave Hansen
2024-12-03  0:43 ` [PATCH] x86,mm: only trim the mm_cpumask once a second Rik van Riel
2024-12-04 13:15   ` Oliver Sang
2024-12-04 16:07     ` Rik van Riel
2024-12-04 16:56     ` [PATCH v3] " Rik van Riel
2024-12-04 20:19       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-12-05  2:03         ` [PATCH v4] " Rik van Riel
2024-12-06  1:30           ` Oliver Sang
2024-12-06  9:40           ` [tip: x86/mm] x86/mm/tlb: Only " tip-bot2 for Rik van Riel
2024-12-03  1:22 ` [PATCH -tip] x86,mm: only " Rik van Riel
2024-12-03 14:57   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-12-03 19:48     ` [PATCH v2] " Rik van Riel
2024-12-03 20:05       ` Dave Hansen
2024-12-03 20:07         ` Rik van Riel
2024-12-04  0:46           ` Dave Hansen
2024-12-04  1:43             ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2024-12-03 23:27       ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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